Animenation (http://www.otakurevu.com/news66.htm)- "The distribution rights to the first 17 Dragonball Z TV series DVDs revert from Pioneer back to FUNimation in mid 2003. FUNimation is considering the possibility of of releasing these early episodes uncut, with new dubbed audio tracks to maintain consistency with the current releases."

Sympathetic FUNI person- "As you understand, a business's goal it to make money. The way I view it, the liberal translations and dialogue changes seen later in the show were done for consistency's sake. With Steven J. Simmons on board all along, would you have a more accurate translation all along? Absolutely. But that's no guarantee the writers wouldn't have still been ordered to Americanize the dialogue. "

Steven J. Simmons- "The only thing I know is what gets included on the master timecoded copies. I do not know why there is no "preview" soundtrack included on those. I wish it weren't so. I also wish the eyecatches were included. I was told it's being done for continuity's sake."


Ah, continuity/consistency. One of FUNimation's favorite excuses to use to justify their actions. What exactly is it? To them it basically means, "For the sake of continuity, we can not change certain aspects from how we've treated them in the past. I mean, the fans are used to those- they would be angry and upset if we were to just suddenly... change them all of a sudden to something completely different! It would be completely wrong and unfair to the fans and would have a completely negative and bad effect on our profitable cash flow! Thus, we cannot put back in the original music/stay true to the original script/etc./etc./etc./etc./etc./etc. for that reason." But is refusing to embrace any change out of fear that people might not like it because it's different from what they're accustomed to really such a great excuse? Or is it just a pitifully overused and overhyped reason to ignore the complaints of fans and to justify to themselves everything that they do? Well take's a walk a down memory lane and see how they've stayed true, and strayed from, "continuity" and the effects that it's had on them. I will point the major areas where they've been consistent and inconsistent, and the positive and negative effects both have had.



1. Skipping 140 episodes of DB to go straight into DBZ.
Was this a good decision? For FUNimation's survival, it was. DBZ had the potential to be much more popular, yet DB had the potential to be very popular as well- plus, DBZ would already have a large and dedicated audience when it'd first come. As shown in Mexico, showing all of DB first was a good thing. But DB's ratings were low and FUNimation wanted to survive as an anime company- and without the money, knowledge and experience to bankroll the completion of dubbing all of DB at that time, FUNimation went into DBZ. It was very bad for the fans, but for FUNimation it helped them to survive. So, for the survival of FUNimation, this was a good decision. Luckily, fans were able to catch up fairly quickly and adapt despite the changes.
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FUNimation's continuity record thus here- Inconsistent, and both good and bad at once.
What does it prove- It wasn't the most profitable route longterm, but it was necessary for them at the time.


2. Replacing DBZ's original score.

Mexico. A lot countries in Central and South America, most of which brought over the Mexican dub (at least 8, not counting Brazils dub- Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Costarica, Ecuador, Panama, Peru, Venezuela). Portugal. Spain. France. Italy. Germany. Poland. The Phillipines. China. Korea. At least 19 different countries. What do they have in common? They ALL had the original music in there- and they were successful there! Again, it's like Chris Sabat said, “It’s almost like there’s some kind of magic attached to the series. Wherever it goes, it’s incredibly popular.”

However, Gen thought differently. He hired a bunch of psychologists and cartoon exec's who herded a bunch of 2-11 year old male children (the core audience FUNimation was trying to appeal to- actually, these were the only people they thought would like the show, they were incredibly shocked when older people happened to like it as well) into testing rooms. Their conclusions based on first-time reactions of kids to unfansubbed Japanese tapes of a show they knew absolutely nothing about beforehand? (imagine taping random episodes off of the IC and showing various short clips of that stuff to kids, and people behind fake mirrors taking notes about it.) "This music is lame, goofy, and foreign. It has FAR too many moments of silence. It is bad for the American culture. Trust us, you want something LIKE the American culture... that is, if you want little kids like the ones we interviewed to like it. Trust us, we're smart people. That's why YOU paid US for our excellent knowledge and research."

Gen decided, "I will trust their judgement. Besides, with our own soundtrack... we will be able to charge royalties for every second it's heard anywhere! Plus, we'll have our own music cd's to sell... and profits shall RIIIIISE!"

Since it's come out, hardcore fans have complained nonstop about it. Dub fans, who had never seen the original score before and had nothing to compare it to, decided that this one was fine and they watched it regardless. But Gen and FUNimation took the ratings to mean that audiences were madly in love with their score, and that their ratings would be less with the original "rediculous to the American culture" soundtrack in there. So was replacing the music... necessary to turn DBZ into a national phenomenon? Absolutely NOT, as has been proven by it's popularity abroad with the original score still intact there. BUT- did replacing it improve things and cause more people to want to watch?

As one fan (Mr. Pink) commented on the Mexican version, "I was in Mexico at the time, and the day the Buu Saga premiered, it was a HUGE deal, as was the premiere of the Saiya-jin Saga and the end of the Cell saga. People went home specifically to watch it those episodes on TV. They also showed the movies in theaters as they were released, not to mention the merchandising." Hmm... nothing quite like that happened in America. So, since DBZ with the original music was much more of a national phenemon in Mexico as opposed to dubbed DBZ in America with it's own homegrown American soundtrack, (not to mention Germany having dozens more original soundtrack cd's for sale selling better then our few dub soundtrack cd's) the evidence points to FUNimation's music replacement as being a bad thing.
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FUNimation's continuity record thus far- inconsistent, and 1 point for bad.
What does it prove- Replacing the score didn't kill off DBZ but it had the reverse effect FUNimation intended- that is, causing less people to watch and be fans of it. And if their cd's were at least as successful as those in Germany then they'd easily be making more money off of cd's right now than they currently are.


3. Pioneer's taking over the first 3 DBZ movies... and including the original Japanese score in them.

FUNimation was essentially created on a friend's investment solely on the advice of Gen's uncle. And ratings weren't topnotch for a longtime until the Cartoon Network started showing DBZ. To make a long story short, FUNi needed the money since they didn't have enough to make end's meet. So, they arranged a deal with Pioneer. Pioneer wanted to buy all of DBZ... but wound up with just the first 3 movies. (though at some point later they also secured a several year lease on sales and royalties on tv airings on the first 2 seasons)

Oh, what a GLORIOUS DAY it was for DBZ fans everywhere! First of all, they didn't censor ANYTHING or cut out ANYTHING. The original Japanese version was included in it's full Tenkaichi/Head Cha La glory. And the dub. (Drools.) As true to the original script as humanly possible! (interestingly enough, Pioneer's dubbing of the first DBZ movie marked the first time in U.S. DBZ history that a DBZ dub was based off of an accurately translated script. It wouldn't be years later before FUNimation would choose to emulate this "amazing feat") And I won't even get into the godly voice acting... Although movie sales were not high at the moment, that was because DBZ's following was very small at the time. DBZ Movies 1-3 have ultimately earned Pioneer quite an impressive sum of money, and buying them turned out to be a good investment for their company.

But there was another effect it had- if helped restored the faith of the hardcore DBZ community and caused them to believe that FUNimation could, and very well would, improve and stay true to the original. HFIL, not even Chris Psaros wanted dubbed DBZ to die. And for instance, when Greg Werner interviewed "Agent Mai" he recommended that she change the DBZ website to encourage fans to write to CN about purchasing new episodes from FUNimation, instead of them just complaining to FUNimation. There are many other instances as well. FUNimation will happily dismiss the importance of hardcore fans in their "pre-CN" early days. But regardless of whether or not the support of hardcore fans was necessary to help the DBZ franchise survive under FUNimation's watch, them helping and offering so much support to FUNimation certainly didn't hurt FUNimation at all. Besides, in many ways these movies helped contribute to making DBZ popular in the early days, particularly when they were shown and well-received on the air.
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FUNimation's continuity record so far- inconsistent, but one point for good!
What does it prove? Contrary to what some at FUNimation might claim, fans can indeed enjoy dubs of the movies that are TRUE to the original and contain the original soundtrack- the popularity of the first 3 movies proves this beyond any doubt. Besides that these movies are still fan favorites amongst dub-watchers and considering the best work that has yet been done on any of the DBZ movies by any dubbing companies. I myself, when I watched these movies back in my "dubbie days" was unaware that I was now "experiencing the original music." I knew nothing of FUNimation's music replacement, so for me... ALL music I heard on dubbed DBZ was the "original music" to me. However- I really liked it! I thought it was better than the usual tv stuff, and I certainly prefered Head Cha La'in it (cause everything's okay!) over "Rocking the Dragon."


4. FUNimation replacing Shunsuke Levy with Bruce Faulconer.

After Season 2, there were legal problems with Saban. Saban got out of the syndication business and dropped FUNimation. However, Saban had apparently drawn up the contracts with Shunsuke Levy to make music for FUNimation. For a variety of legal and perhaps financial reasons, FUNimation stopped using Levy and hired Bruce Faulconer, a local Dallas musician. Fan reactions to the sudden change were very negative. They considered Faulconer's score inferior to Levy's. Even those who had complained about Levy agreed, and ultimately regretted his departure.
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FUNimation's continuity record thus far- inconsistent, and now 2 points for bad.
What does it prove? Either fans consider Shuki Levy to be a superior composer, or they just were angered at the sudden change in music. Or both. Take yer pick.


5. FUNimation's replacement of the Ocean cast with local people.

You know the story... legal agreements with Saban, too little money, blah blah blah. Besides that it was becoming a pain for many at FUNimation to fly so much to offices in Canada all the way from Texas. Convinced by Chris Sabat that they could find all the local talent they needed, Barry Watson (and others) decided to switch to hiring local people from the Dallas-Ft. Worth area. Although a small handful had professional voice acting experience, most didn't. In their defense they cited everything from 1. Horn playing, 2. Puppet shows, 3. being a stand up comic, 4. being a radio DJ as "professional experience for the job we had, though not actual 'voice acting for an animated show experience' persay." Is there really anyone here who doesn't know how much Season 3 sucked and how laughably bad the acting and voices were? For instance, as one fan pointed out, "....Gohan apparently went through puberty between episodes 53 and 54, because his voice is certainly a lot deeper than it was." (http://www.netcolony.com/entertainment/janemba/editorial3.html)
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FUNimation's continuity record thus far- inconsistent, and now 3 points for bad.
What does it prove- Replacing a talented, good and highly experienced professional acting troupe like Ocean... with a bunch of local people who had never done this sort of thing.... turned out to be a disaster. Everyone, from the most loyal of dubbies to the most critical purists were extremely dissapointed at the drastic changes. Only "newbs" introduced to the series during the third series or the people who simply didn't notice were really content. But, this issue has already been beaten to death. I will add, however, that this issue is the main reason why so many at FUNimation have come to value "consistency" so much and use it as an excuse for so much of what they do... along with why they flatout refuse to alter so many of their business practices.


6. FUNimation sticking with their new cast instead of going back to the Ocean cast.

FUNimation decided to stick to their new guns. Eventually, complaints died down and fans got used to the new voices. However, "used to" doesn't mean that they came to consider them completely superior to the old ones. Debates about character/VA changes between the two casts still rage on message boards across the internet and will undoubtedly continue to do so for many years to come. But in my opinion, Goku, Gohan, Piccolo, Kaiou-sama, DBZ Yamcha and the Narrator are the only ones that are really still suffering. The rest have improved a lot.
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FUNimation's continuity record thus far- consistent, and 1 point for good.
What does it prove- Like with scenario 5, this is also a big part of their whole "consistency theory." Other anime dubs by them (particularly Blue Gender, Fruits Basket and Dragonball) have very professional and well-done voice acting. Developing their own "home studio" and "stable" of VA's has ultimately come to benefit them.


7. FUNimation switching from "Engrish" poorly mistranslated Toei scripts to use for "readaption" to Steve's excellent translations.

61.5% of the whole DBZ series was mistranslated... 61.5%! Argh, I can't even stand thinking about it. Check "Features" and the John Burgmeier interview to understand why. In any case, I don't see how having the likes of Christopher Neel adapt crappy lines like, "Fly I do!" improved things, as opposed to having him work with translations like, "Look at me, I'm flying!" In any case, Seasons 5-7 were met with higher praise then past seasons. Believe it or not Gen and Barry and others at FUNimation then... actually agreed... that basing Americanized "hipped up, beefed up" scripts off of... 100% translated scripts instead of the shit they got for free from Toei... was (OMG!) actually a... GOOD THING! Finally, took ya long enough ya dumb bastards.
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FUNimation's continuity record thus far- Now FINALLY consistent with giving FUNi's not too-talented to begin with writers something they can actually work with without having to automatically alter 95% of each script. However, this is technically an "inconsistent" since it had such a dramatic effect on the creation of dubbed scripts from how the "process" had previously worked.
What does it prove- It proves that FUNimation are a bunch of f***ing morons for taking that long to get some sense bitch-slapped upside their heads. Seriously, this pisses me off more than anything they've ever done and I once even converted a WDC fan who complained to me that "you can never win because FUNimation's doing what they do since that is what makes them the most money, and your suggestions would cause them to make less" almost instantly to being pro-dbzoa.net... after debating with him only briefly and showing him that one inteview. (While we're on the topic of WDC, it's a HUMOR site and is supposed to be a PARODY of dbzoa.net, not a literal 100% explanation, justification and defense of what FUNimation does, contrary to what most of you at FUNi believe, sheesh. Still, a good and really fun site which does make a few good points.)

That aside, I'm not going to get into the script writers's "continuity" of again changing everything since I plan on... delving much, much, MUCH more indepth into that in the future.. But I will say that it was a bad, dumb and completely unnecessary idea to continue with this form of "continuity" and it didn't really help matters at all. On the other hand, it is good that FUNi's script "writers" became less change-happy than they had been in all of the past seasons.


8. FUNimation treating other animes with respect.

On the day that the anime community heard that FUNimation wanted to "branch out" into other animes they literally went bonkers. FUNimation had one seriously shitty reputation and was pretty much universally hated and despised- and no fans wanted them to potentially do to their favorite animes what they'd been doing to DBZ all this time. I did hear that one rather prominent VA went to animeondvd.com to try and "smooth things over" (basically sucking up to the fans and trying to reassure them) and promising them that FUNimation would treat it's other animes much differently from DBZ and that there was no need to worry.

Their first new show was Blue Gender. Before directing it Chris Sabat watched the episodes 100's of times with subtitles to prepare himself for dubbing it and picked voices that matched well. The script writers avoided "changing the dialogue" and stayed as true to it as possible, along with keeping in all of the original music. Fruits Basket essentially got the same treatment. Other anime dubs by them have too, but not to the extent that these two have.

However, none of their other anime dubs have made as much money as DBZ. Of course, DBZ has proven itself to be the most profitable anime property on the face of the planet so it really isn't a surprise that even a FUNimationized version of it would prove more profitable than other anime dubs that are treated with respect. Of course, the exec's and others at FUNi have convinced themselves that this new "dubbing tactic" was making their animes less marketable and profitable (particularly DB which has it's original score) but, of course, that's just a big fat load of FUNimation horse shit. I've already pointed why DB is really less popular than DBZ and besides that, not even amazingly great and famous anime dubs like Cowboy Bebop and Trigun are making nearly as much as DBZ. And besides that it's not like there are a whole ton of other extremely marketable 200+ episode animes out there. It's pretty ridiculous since by their logic the DB and Lupin III movies aren't selling as well as the DBZ ones simply because FUNimation kept in the original music for them instead of hiring Mark Menza to replace the music for them with a rock soundtrack.
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FUNimation's continuity record thus far- inconsistent, and now 2 points for good.
What does it prove- FUNimation insists that what they do makes DBZ more "accessible to a wider viewing audience" and that it "is what makes the show so popular. The original version is just a bunch of goofy Jap crap that hardly anyone could possibly tolerate, trust us, we here FUNimation know what we're doing and we're doing the best and most profitable thing." So why are they treating their other animes with so much respect instead of being "consistent" and dubbing them like they were DBZ? It would seem to suggest that to some extent they themselves actually... disagree with how they have been doing things.

Besides that, for the 2 or 3 people in Hungaria reading this who don't know, FUNimation is currently the most hated, despised, disliked, insulted, and mistrusted anime company in all of America- and Gen Fukunaga now has inherited Carl Macek's crown as "the most hated man in the anime industry." Not even Dic and 4Kids are as detested as they are- and that's really saying something. The existence of sites like DBZU and dbzoa.net, and countless others and the 1,000's of anti-FUNimation editorials created over the past few years on the web proves it- as do the 100,000's of hateful complaint letters FUNimation has consistently received over the years. As hard as this may be to believe sometimes.... FUNimation are not masochists who get off on hearing how much people hate them, and they actually prefer not being looked down upon and insulted so much. The main reason they're treating other animes with respect- is because they're so desperate for the anime community and fans to have some respect for them.

FUNimation's fair treatment to DB, Yu Yu Hakusho, Blue Gender, Fruits Basket and Lupin III has been a GOOD thing for them- and I'm glad they're showing their other animes respect. They need all the compliments and support they can get and it'll be a very, very, VERY long time before they'll ever be able to move beyond their reputation for ruining, butchering, and raping DBZ and DBGT to highhell for their own arrogant, ignorant, selfish and greedy ambitions. And even then, people in the anime community will never wholly forget or forgive them for what they did. Basically, there are enough DBZ and DBGT fans that hate them to no end that FUNimation needs as many positive pro-FUNimation fans as they can possibly get to like and have respect them, so this has been a very good thing for them. Besides, FUNimation is making a fair amount of money on their new anime acquistions, just simply not as much as the humongous DBZ trend in America has made them. But again, how likely is it for there to be another anime phenomenon in America as big as DBZ was? And, although I'm sure some of them have their misgivings, I seriously doubt their other animes would be selling nearly as good if they were also getting the "special" FUNimation treatment like DBZ got.


9. FUNimation's treating of GT like big fat piece of shit.

So what happened when FUNimation came to GT? Well, for starters they announced that they were removing it's single best and most beloved feature- it's music... and putting in rap instead. Next, the first 1/4th of GT is being skipped and being shown after GT's final episode... and it'll probably only be available on DVD/VHS only. Finally, they're heavily "Americanizing, hipping up, pumping up, beefing up" the dialogue and story to.... "pump up the dynamics of the series." On the day this was announced FUNimation reached their pinnacle of hatred and despisement in the anime community as anime fans across the internet all collectively told them to go f*** themselves as they came to realize that GT would be raped even worse by FUNimation than DBZ ever was.
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Continuity so far- Consistent with the overall sucky dubbing of DBZ. And now 4 points for bad.
What does it prove- it proves that FUNimation is still an incredibly shitty anime company stuck with 4Kids and Dic-like dubbing tactics that refuses to listen to the fans. In other words, "If our sales are even remotely satisfactory to us then f*** everyody and everything else. We are right, and you are all wrong." In the short run they are selling a lot of tapes and DVD's (at a higher rather than DBZ's so far) from fans anxious to see what happens after DBZ and unwilling to call it quits just yet. (or wait until August 2004 to finally be able to get a glimpse of GT) But in the long run this will ultimately bite them in the ass. FUNimation can brag about SSJ4 and higher power levels till Kaioshin dies of old age, and they can mask and hype up this series as much as Funily possible. But sort of reanimating it with something other than bucket brigades of digital paint, they can't turn GT into a great series. Once GT reaches the next main saga after Bebi, fans will realize that they've been had and FUNimation's reputation will once again sink even further down the proverbial crapper into the enormous pile of shit FUNimation always seems so happy to wallow in.

In other words, 20 years from now FUNimation will still be dubbing animes and doing their thing- and all of the 3 DB series will be pretty much done with. All that will remain of that will be the memories of the fans and how they think that FUNimation handled it and treated them. I will say though, skipping 1/4th is probably helping sales (although I doubt the rap music is at all. Hell, I'll even admit that if Faulconer was doing it instead of Menza sales would be even higher! Of course, GT's original music would help it sell the best). But in the long run, is it really worth it for FUNimation to make more money in the short run for GT if it will just cause people to hate and despise them for such a long time?
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So what does this all prove? The fact that that the 6 instances of inconsistency were half good and half bad and that the 2 instances of consistency were also half good and bad completely disproves FUNimation's consistency theory. If their theory were correct, then all 6 instances of inconsistency (including 1. Pioneer-quality movies, 2. treating other animes with respect, 3. switching to accurately translated scripts as opposed to the "Engrish ones) should automatically be bad and both instances of consistency (including dubbing GT the same manner only much, much, much worse than DBZ ever was) should be good.

This obviously shows that "consistency for the sole purpose of consistency itself" is unnecessary, and is not always a good thing, thus completely disproving FUNimation's "consistency theory." Furthermore, musically it shows that the usage of the original music in the first three movies was a GOOD thing and that moving down from Levy to Faulconer was a bad thing, and that moving down even lower to Menza was even worse. This, along with the popularity of DBZ (with it's original music included no less) abroad in other foreign countries, completely destroys all arguments that avoiding usage of the original score, "to be, you know, consistent with the other stuff" is not a good idea. People accepted Pioneer's way of dubbing DBZ and their usage original music because it was GOOD music and they LIKED what they saw. The fact that it was "different" and "inconsistent" did not bother fans in the slightest- in fact, these 3 very special DBZ movie dubs are still the fan favorites of many. This leads one to the conclusion that the quality of the music itself is what matters the most, not it's "consistency" to anything else that's been shown before. In fact, isn't the fact that DBZ is so unique from everything else what makes people like it? And shouldn't fans' tastes in "uniqueness" to the unique anime they see and the unique story they enjoy also apply to the rich, original, unique music that they could hear?

Futhermore, this also shows that FUNimation's "style" of dubbing for DBZ was a bad idea to implement into GT, and that it was a good idea to abandon it in favor of "Pioneer-style" dubbing for it's other 5 different current anime dubs. (sorry FUNimation, but it's going to be a LONG time before anyone ever uses the adjective "FUNimation-style" in positive conjunction with how an anime should be dubbed... assuming that they ever do.) This data suggests that DBZ's style of dubbing by FUNimation... ultimately made the series inferior and less appealing to the mass American viewing audience. After all, Mexican DBZ that followed the original extremely well appealed far more to the mass Mexican viewing audience (as did the French the Polish dubs to their perspective audiences... and this ONLY for the dubs we're familiar in depth with so far.) than American DBZ being heavily altered to be "more appealing to the American audience" did for it's mass American viewing audience.

The conclusion ladies and gentlemen- if DBZ had been dubbed more true to the original instead of being altered into something it wasn't... then DBZ would have been better and far more enjoyable and accessable to far more people. And FUNimation would have made more money off of DBZ.

Whether FUNimation will ever accept this fact is doubtful, and most unlikely. After all, would YOU want to personally admit that you did something as awful as help ruin or make an anime worse? Carl Macek refuses to admit that he did anything wrong for Robotech- and always argues that, "financially, I simply did what was best" which, though a slightly different scenario for DBZ's case, has always been FUNimation's ultimate argument for their behavior. My point in mentioning Macek here is quite simply... that butchering and ruining an anime is something that nobody wants to accept any credit for. FUNimation has excuses for what they do- why? Because they are afraid and extremely unwilling to ever accept what it is that they have done. The idea that they are wrong is too disgusting and horrible for them to even think about or accept... so they will do, think, and say everything they can to themselves to help them believe otherwise so that they sleep easier at night and live with themselves better.

I have studied their company very in-depth for almost a year now and become quite familiar with all of their major arguments that they use to justify themselves. Their arguments have been made clear- and I've pretty much responded to every one of them. As of now, I have just finished writing an editorial in regards to what were pretty much their last major arguments they use to justify their behavior. Whether they agree with everything I say is unlikely, whether they agree with at least a little bit of what I say is likely, but I've stated what are my thoughts on their reasons for doing things. Technically, all that's left is for to review and compare each of the episodes to their original counterparts on an individual basis, heh heh.

Ahem... despite this, I doubt they will listen to what I or anyone have to say or will come to acceptance for what it is that they have done. But I myself will say that if I was convinced that dubbing DBZ as accurately to the original as possible would have been a bad thing that would have made the show less appealing to less people and make less money- that I would gladly give up DBZUncensored 2 completely, as it'd be a useless struggle for what I'd ultimately be asking for and demanding. And it would be hurting the series I so enjoy instead of helping it. But that's not the case, as I know from the personal experience of myself and the friends whom I've shared my fansubs with and who have also experienced what true DBZ is all about.

Now then, let me give you an example of something. Suppose a guy were to rape a girl and then refused to accept any blame for what he did while making up excuses for why he did it- would he be "preserving" his pride and honor by doing that? No, he'd just be deluding himself and living in a lie to make himself feel better about what he did. If he wanted to regain his pride and honor, he would have to accept that what he did was wrong and do whatever necessary to make amends. That's exactly what FUNimation are doing- they raped DBZ and yet, refuse to accept it. They make up excuses to mentally to themselves preserve their "pride" and "honor" and to assure themselves that they didn't do anything wrong at all.

Please, FUNimation- just accept what you've done and understand that it indeed waswrong. Hopefully then you will finally be able to do what's right for these shows from now on... although quite frankly, I'm sad to say, you'll probably just ignore everything that's just been said here... just as you've ignored everything else that everybody else everywhere has had to say as well. But only when, or if, you come to acceptance for what it is that you have done will they you ever truly be able to move on and try to change it, which is the only way that you will ever decide to treat what is left of DBZ and GT correctly and in an appropriate manner... And only then will you ever be able to have any right to ever expect the fans to truly forgive you for what it is that you have done.

- GreatSaiyaman777