Why I've left the Dbzoa

See the title? Good. So why am I leaving? Well I've spent several months being harassed, attacked, insulted and threatened nonstop by one staff member- SJR. Long ago when someone (Ultraseiya from OP Uncensored) submitted a review of the first dubbed FUNimation GT episode I did two overly goofy updates acting like a really dumb wannabe-gangster high as hell off of weed. That was of course, a parody of FUNimation's poor attempt at putting rap music (http://www.dragonballgt.com/what_gt/30web.mp3) in DBGT. Unfortunately, SJR had posted some fanfic and I accidentally deleted over it. When some staffers started complaining I got confused then reposted (and re-deleted his update) several times until I realized what I was doing. SJR then boiled over with outright anger and said something to the extent of, "I've lost all respect for you. Good luck getting it back because it'll be almost impossible to do." To be honest I didn't think much of it or really care at the time. At that point I'd already gotten very disillusioned at the lack of work any of the staff (besides Leia) put into the site. Nobody else really did anything besides posting fanfictions and fanart, neither of which I thought really belonged at DBZOA in the first place. I did comment though that I didn't realize I'd been deleting it over several time though he didn't respond. I didn't give it much more thought. Unfortunately, I didn't realize just what kind of a person I was dealing with. SJR became obsessed with revenge and he repeatedly attacked me, complained at me, insulted me, threatened me, talked shit behind my back, lied about me and tried to have me banned twice. The first time he did so was when I complained about the new site layout and Wedge freaked out about it. The second time being after he'd gotten me to be mad at him, after a long period of harassing me. He created a "joke" signature about intentionally killing me then why I politely asked him to please change it, simply flamed the crap out of me and insulted me and refused to. I was so angry at him that he got me to explode at him on AIM. He then bragged that had his vote gone through he'd have gotten rid of me, pointing to who he believes would have supported him. I responded back and insulted one of the people. After our "friendly" conversation came to an end I was happy to have finally been able tell this asshole who'd been harassing me for so long that he could go fuck himself, though I didn't realize just what he had in store for me. 5 minutes later Crippler AIM’d me saying something about hearing I was leaving the site (which I never even -said- to SJR, or had thought about at that time) and that SJR told him, then Illj did a giant topic demanding and stating he was going to ban me for "picking on" his friends. That really felt like a pretty big fucking knife in the back. Illj didn't even bother to talk to me or ask my side of the story, he just immediately leaped out of nowhere outraged in violent fit and started attacking me while swallowing up every piece of bullshit SJR told him. After all the work and time I'd put into the site, editorials, interviews (reprinted and original), news, comparisons, all while he simply just did put in fan submissions and did fanfiction stuff, made it feel even worse. I'd never even messed with Illj before and had repeatedly just tried to be nice (you know the old, "if you keep acting nice to someone they'll eventually be nice to" routine) thinking that'd stop him from being rude to me and get him to just be nice which was all I had really wanted from him. Eventually Leia spoke to me and talked about a "compromise" of me staying as long as I got my own site. (I'd already planned on getting my own site anyway hosted at Dbzoa, but she just wanted to say that and call it a "compromise" to "make everybody happy.") SJR, in response to another failed attempt, simply apologized to everyone and insisted calmly to me that he had done nothing wrong to me and wasn't trying to ban me but rather was just "standing up for my friends", basically implying, "Illj is the one trying to ban you. You had been mean to my friends, and all I was doing was the right thing by standing up for them honorably. I come to you not as an enemy but a friend seeking peace", and that we should try to get along. I told him I thought he was crazy, dishonest, vengeance-obsessed, manipulative and hateful, that I knew he was lying, that I didn't want his fake apology and that he should just leave me the hell alone and I'd leave him alone. (It’s curious though, that he insisted there was nothing "offensive" in his sig and that he told me that as an excuse for refusing to remove it- yet before trying to start up an angry mob with Illj, he immediately had his insulting sig deleted.) Later, SJR actually spoke to me on AIM and acted very nice, making a bunch of promises and talking about moving forward and so forth. At one point he asked me, "Don't you think consistency is a good thing?" without elaborating much on it. I just responded well sure that sounds nice, and the convo ended soon after. Later though my editorials started being edited anonymously to reduce the font size. This really pissed me off and I immediately suspected SJR but didn't want to say anything until I could look it up and find/prove it was him. I didn't really look it up for a month but then later Illj made a topic complaining that someone had edited the board he named after himself. ("Illyland") I added in a comment about looking it up to see who had done it and mentioned the thing about the editorials. Immediately SJR wrote an extremely insulting and rude comment in ridiculously oversized letters (far, far more so than what the editorials had been in) then proceeded edit the editorials yet again. I banned him briefly and did a topic in mods to stop him from editing them yet again then Ski arranged a chat between us. He then went on and on trying to justify why. I told him I didn't believe him and argued against all of the petty reasons he kept trying to make about why he was right, then he got angry at me and left an aim chat Ski had arranged between us. (He also immediately left when the chat first began after I said hi, then only came back and tried to talk to me after Ski had gotten him to. He couldn't even bear to speak to me) Later SJR then started putting in insulting updates on the front page. "Mid-west Side- yeah, that's stupid too," which was about identical to something silly I'd putten up in the title of something. I complained about it and, all that happened was that him and his two friends of the shit clique (Illj, Ski) yelled at me and attacked me for fussing about it, Wedge blatantly ignored it then Leia insisted on believing SJR that it wasn't intended as an insult in any manner because that's what he said and that there was no "proof" otherwise. So then I did an update of my own ("Laziness makes the heart grow more psycho") then... everybody bitches loudly at me for insulting him back and warns me not to. Wtf? Yeah, it was pretty fucking backwards and it seemed pretty hypocritical to me. SJR can insult me and I'm supposed to just take it but if I insult him back then all hell breaks loose. Then the exact same thing happens again with another update of SJR's, which he worded in a way he knew would give him plausible deniability and insistence he wasn't talking about me while still getting under my skin. I reacted and responded in the exact same way as last time, exactly what he intended. I did the same thing again but instead of just letting myself be insulted I responded to some insults from SJR, Illj and Ski. SJR avoided the topic aside from putting a laughter face in it, then the two started talking about wanting to get rid of me for being a "problem" while SJR just laughed in the topic. Finally.... I'd fucking had it, so I wrote up a report on SJR chronicling all the times he'd harassed me, threatened me and repeatedly given me shit nonstop then submitted it to every staffer demanding that SJR be banned. I'd told Leia I felt like I was being deliberately harassed by SJR, and that he wanted to get rid of me for months, and she'd just ignored me all along saying that SJR said he wasn't and that I needed more proof, it being in the form of a lengthy report of me being messed with. I got 3 email responses. I responded to Ski and apologized to some stuff I'd said about him before- surprisingly, his response was very positive. He said he could now see where I was coming from and had stuff happen from him to me to, accepted my apology and apologized for some of the stuff he'd said too and said that hopefully we could move on and start from the beginning. Kaeli e-mailed me telling it was a good thing I had evidence to show that SJR had lied to try to have me banned since that'd help me. Then Illjwamh emailed me. He was very angry and pouty. He first halfheartedly stated he was glad I got YGO Uncensored there and had thanked me for it (he had said, "I think that's a good thing", briefly but never actually said "thanks" directly to me) but didn't want to give me credit for anything else, then told me he didn't even bother to read half of my email and said that I shouldn't even DARE to try to imagine why he dislikes me. (When, in actuality, I'd just assumed I'd done something to offend him and was trying to make amends for whatever that was so we could get along- ie, I was just trying to be nice) He then told me that there wasn't anything so much as remotely insulting in there that either him or SJR had written to me, then told me I should see a psychologist or psychiatrist to treat myself from my imagining that either of them had ever insulted me. ........ I gave up all hope on Illj being anything other than a complete and utter self-deluded asshole then. Anyway you can read the topic here- Link Basically Leia (who always tries to find a "compromise" for every single fight whether it's right or not) came by and demanded we all get along. Why? She didn't want to "offend" any other staffers or do anything to cause anyone to leave, which Illj, who was going apeshit at the thought of SJR being gone, definitely would have done who demanded that if SJR was remotely banned or punished I would have to get the same fate to. Therefore, she pursued the only path to ensure everybody stays, gets along and nobody gets punished and stays as happy as possible- which basically meant letting SJR off scotfree. Later I complained to her in AIM - I had complained to her for months about SJR harassing me, and all along she'd brushed it off and told me "Well SJR says he isn't messing with you" and to just forget about it. And, "Golly, he says he isn't messing with you, I think you should believe him." Then when I complained again, she flat-out stated, "Well, maybe if you feel that way you don't belong here." ....... That really disturbed me to hear that. I'd been attacked, insulted, threatened for months by SJR then she refused to do anything about it for "the sake of staff unity" then threatens to kick me off just for... wanting him punished for harassing me? I didn't even say he had to necessarily banned- a suspension, something. If she didn't do anything that'd just tell SJR that what he did was perfectly fine and that he could get away with doing it again and again. I knew exactly how SJR operated and would respond. Punishing him would be the only way to put the message in his head that he couldn't get away with this kind of shit. Leia again ignored me and said she refused to allow anyone to be punished, that was that. It was a miracle I didn't leave at that point... well, "miracle" is probably the wrong choice of words. It was an incredibly and terribly wrong decision that I chose to stay after all that. I honestly believed that because the DBZ community is so incredibly fragmented that I shouldn't leave because that'd break things up even more, and that I should stay to try to keep things more united and not do anything that'd cause otherwise. (In short, I should suffer for the good of the site.) It was a twisted way of looking at things but then again, I really thought that was the best thing. I put the site above myself when I should have just stood up for myself then and there and not tolerated this kind of behavior in any way and just do what is right. Even though I'd worked so long and hard for the site, dug up so much old information put in so much news, content, reviews, miscellaneous, interviews, etc. etc. to try and help it- and even though barely any of the staff besides Leia and maybe Crippler really bothered to thank me much for it or give it any mind- and even though basically the entire staff had stopped doing any work and stopped caring, and even though they stood back and did nothing while SJR harassed/threatened/insulted me and lied about me for months while repeatedly plotting to try to get rid of me, I still chose to stay and believe in the DBZOA. So what happened with SJR? Like I quoted from Az in the report, "John, Enigma Gaming's president, was a real bastard. But credit must be given where it's due - he was a genius when it came to internet war. I learned everything I know from him, and to date I have never faced a smarter opponent. He knew that in a flame war, there are no real winners. You can further establish yourself with a group that already approves of you, or make an outcast even more of an outsider. Maybe give the masses a few cheap laughs. But neutral parties who observe flame wars won't be swayed by witty or clever flames. They'll think both sides childish and will listen to those who kept themselves out of the flaming. In Enigma's orchestrated attack on Vortex, the plan was to get us flaming them by continually discrediting us and making it look like they were helping. It was a genius plan - there was nothing we could do. If we attacked back, it made Vortex look like the insolent ungrateful brats to Enigma's kind and helpful older brother image." Az was referring to an incident where on an old site of his, another site had planned on getting to them by acting helpful in such a way as to try and annoy them and make them lash out, while "acting" friendly and helpful even though they were really just trying to annoy the crap out of them and get them to lash out and look bad, which is one of the things I'd complained at SJR about. I'd asked him several times -repeatedly- just to send me any complaints/problems in private messages instead of making giant topics complaining about stuff, but he ignored me every time and posted giant topics in the mods/admins baord. And it did annoy me (especially since I'd asked him several times not to, and since he kept deliberately ignoring me) and I did complain when he'd do it. He kept doing it in spite of me complaining that it bothered me, or more accurately because it did bother me. Even after this whole incident and his later "apology" he tried doing the same thing yet again. This time around though, I decided to turn his strategy against him. I'd thought about complaining to him that I'd repeatedly asked him to just private message me any complaints or "advice" about anything instead of trying to annoy me. I knew from his insistence about complaining about 1/9th of the landmass of America by calling the mid-west portion of it stupid and that it deeply affected his personal life... well, I knew I'd have better luck arguing with a rock. I thought about complaining to the staff that he kept ignoring my requests and was doing this just to get under my skin. Then I realized, as usual, that none of them would give a flying fuck or do anything about it and would probably just complain at me for complaining about it, (yeah, I had a "great" team of costaffers here) so I did the only thing I really could do to solve the problem and diffuse it- I just followed his "help" and said thanks like Az and his crew had done back in the day. Leia was delighted at this interaction and figured we'd learned to get along, be mature, blah blah blah, etc. and whatever magical gumdrops and rainbow happiness shit or whatever. She wasn't so bright. That wasn't really the case. SJR was trying a tactic (and something I'd asked him not to do several times) to get under my skin that had worked successfully for him in the past. Sure, he was at least acting nice but I knew him well enough to know not to trust him at all. He knew this had annoyed me multiple times in the past, and that I'd repeatedly asked him not to, but intentionally ignored it. I chose to diffuse it the best/only way I really could- act nice and delighted at his help, and prevent him from accomplishing what he'd wanted. He tried again: Link And so I did the same thing again. I think he started to get the idea by now this wasn't going to work. Unfortunately I didn't really consider things much or think about the incidents besides just being glad I had defused them. The fact SJR was still doing this and ignoring my previous requests to PM me about stuff (which even his friend Ski had done, when he talked to me via PM and at least politely complained about me mentioning the fact that I was enjoying watching One Piece fansubs in an update) really meant he still had it in for me. There's one rule I had forgotten to take into account- you can't deal with crazy. For a long time I'd thought (and flat-out stated) that he was a crazy, vengeance-crazed psychopath and that was why he was so obsessed over something so small that happened so long ago and refused to accept my apology and move on. He used to be nice to me and actually like my work and appreciate the stuff I put into the site but after he got angry.... he never stopped hating and was never truly nice, grateful or accepting of me in any way. No apologies, no explanations- nothing could change that and he completely stopped being nice to me period. It was as if I'd found the crazy switch in his head and accidentally flipped it on and now it wouldn't turn off. Later when I spoke to Leia she was going on about how sad it was for SJR. She showed me a topic where he was talking about his family. I'm not going to link to the topic but those who've seen it know what I'm talking about. To be honest I wasn't the slightest bit surprised at all. I told Leia that and said that I'd told her SJR was crazy all along. I then commented to her that mental diseases are hereditary and the fact his brother was like that suggested that it ran in the family, and significantly raised the possibility of other siblings being crazy too. (whether more crazy, just as much or just less crazy) She then got angry at me for saying that (which was only the truth) and told me I should feel sorry for SJR. "Feeling sorry for SJR," though was something I'd grown incapable of doing after my months of trying unsuccessfully to deal with him and to get him/ask him to just leave me the hell alone. Anyway, back in early June One Piece had been licensed by 4Kids. It was news which had most One Piece fans horrified but, of course, didn't actually bother anyone on staff at the DBZOA besides me. One of the most popular One Piece fansites Arlong Park decided to do a fan movement to get 4Kids to agree to release dual/uncut DVDs- a project called Stand Up Now." They changed their minds about 1-2 days later citing several people who e-mailed them (mainly EvilGamerX) encouraging them to do so. Then stated that they just shouldn't worry about what happens to One Piece because they already have fansubs and scanlations to go with. This bothered me for two reasons. First of all, a lot of this sounded eerily familiar to the old DBZ Community. A lot of fucked-up stuff happened long ago, some of which you can read here. (you can read some more about this here) Basically the community had a lot of infighting between fans of the show, some of who stopped complaining while forming relations with the company. I didn't really agree with all that happened. As for EGX? Well I'd dealt with him before during the DBZ Movie 8 music saga. Less than 3 months after FUNimation had announced rap music for DBGT I found out they were replacing DBZ Movie 8's music and announced it and started a brief gung-ho campaign directed towards them to try to get them to change their minds- part of this including posting on FUNimation's message boards. It looks pretty silly looking back at it but at the time, everybody felt pretty strongly and passionately about it and so did I. There was still a palpable discontent from the fans about the rap music issue and I felt like trying to do something instead of just doing nothing. EvilGamerX had gotten angry that I'd gotten people to post on FUNimation official DBZ Movie boards complaining to leave the music alone and unhappily e-mailed me several times to try to encourage me to get them to leave. He at first denied having anything to do with FUNimation but later admitted he worked as a moderator for them. Long story short, we didn't really work things out. I was kind of mortified someone who said he's a DBZ fan would want to help/work for FUNimation considering how they treat the show but then again, doing so did have it's share of perks in terms of getting some information from a few of the people that worked there- such as how he'd been told at that point that FUNimation already had all the movies licensed. So what'd I think of Arlong Park's announcement? I really didn't like it. Taken literally they were saying they shouldn't worry about what happens to the dub simply because there were substitutes to it. In addition, a moderator from FUNimation (a company that distributes many of 4Kids' DVDs) had encouraged them to this line of thinking. To me it'd be the same as if Naruto had gotten licensed by 4Kids and Narutofan.com started up a movement to get uncut/dual dvd's from 4Kids. Then later one of the workers at Narutofan.com (who was also a moderator for 4Kids's distribution company FUNimation and friends with a few people over there) would be quoted by Tazmo as being the most responsible for convincing him to stop that form of activism completely and that they just shouldn't care at all since they already have fansubs and scanslations and don't need to worry what happens. Can you see why that happening or them saying that would piss me off so much? It's ironic though that APark originally said that because they're now one of the most vocally anti-4Kids sites out there and are very critical of its dub. However, if they had literally followed what they'd said earlier when they disbanded "Stand Up Now" then they wouldn't be the vocal site that they are and would just ignore what goes wrong with the dub. Remember how outraged and publicly vocal Planet Namek was at the horrible treatment DBZ Movies 4 and 5 got? If you don't then that's only because they never were. I guess it's that kind of scenario that had me worried so I decided to write two editorials. The first editorial I wrote was entitled, "The History of the DBZ Community, and the lessons that can be learned from it." I'm not really too happy with it mainly because I held back and I left out a lot of information and other times said a lot without elaborating too much. I also wrote a negative editorial about EvilGamerX and the possibility of Arlong Park pulling a Namek. How'd they react? They got mad and their readers got angry as hell and made a couple of dozen nasty posts about it in a news update that got posted. My first reaction was that, man, I was just really glad this wasn't Narutofan.com which gets at least 1,000 posts per day. I don't think I could have survived that much ninja action and things could be a lot worse. My second reaction was that I really should have seen this coming. Earlier I'd shown the editorial to a friend of mine Ramza and asked him what he thought. He said that it looked like a nice site and he didn't understand why I was attacking it. I agreed with him it's a good site then mentioned all the old stuff in the past with the dbz community and possibility of things repeating itself which was why I was being so negative. Basically, I didn't really mean to the attack the site so much or at all but just to complain about the possibility of what'd happen if it ever pulled a Namek while warning them so that they don't. I really should have corrected it then since it wasn't like I'd be able to talk to everybody personally on aim about it to clear up any misconceptions. And it probably wasn't such a good idea to try to capture some of the fire of Zell Miller's speech in it since well, he is Zell Miller. But you know what? Everyone fucks up every now and then. I mean take ANN and Zac Bertschy. A while back ago he did a venomous rant on fansubbers and people downloading them basically complaining about fansubs all being poorly designed pieces of shit and the people that download them being flaming, semi-Communist, thieving assholes. I was pretty, well, extremely angry when I read that diatribe and I remember the person I was talking with after reading it was too. Apparently a lot of other people thought the same way too because less than a day later Tempest issued a response. What did ANN do, denounce him and attack him openly or let someone go after him? And just ignore the years of hard work and content he'd given to the site? Nah, they stood up for their guy and backed him up. Since then Zac's actually improved a lot, making an unprecedented (well, for him) denounciation of 4Kids's treatment of One Piece, improving his writing a lot and pretty much giving up his gaurish practice of just randomly flaming the crap out of one emailer a week. I don't think he should be judged only on bursting a few blood vessels while talking about fansubs and have all his other work like his columns, features and time spent as Anime Insider's editor be disregarded because of it and I'm sure he'd probably agree with me. And I don't think I should be judged completely on just having a few blood vessels burst over EGX either. Staffer Crippler got really nervous at all the angry reactions though and asked me to put in a disclaimer. Politely though- "I'm asking you this as a friend, not as an enemy trying to nix all of your editorials." So, I elaborated more on what I'd written. They linked to that in the news update and that seemed to calm them down and stuff. That should have solved everything right? But then SJR decided to do a little update himself... Title- "A word or two" Update- "The opinions of GreatSaiyaman777 are not necessarily those of the Site as a whole, nor do they reflect those of the Otaku Alliance and its Staff, unless otherwise noted by the Site Administrators." After all the crap I'd been through with SJR... I immediately knew exactly what SJR was doing and why. He found a perfect opportunity to attack and demean me on the front page, and still have an excuse he could point to justify himself while making me look like a bad guy. I really wasn't in the mood for this kind of crap from him again so what'd I do? I deleted the update and incorporated the message into mine ("blah blah, doesn't represent the site") figuring that'd shut up and keep him from insulting me personally and would end this whole thing. But how'd he react? SJR- "If you EVER fucking delete another one of my updates and pass it off as your own again, I swear I will do whatever it takes to get you removed. I don't care who the hell you think you are." .... SJR was fucking at it again... threatening me yet once more! Calling putting his disclaimer in my update to avoid having him openly harass me "stealing" his stuff? He still couldn't stop obsessing over trying to get rid of me! He had also written at the end of his new update after putting it up again when I deleted it, "Blargh, you better not delete my goddamn update again or else..." Over something that small? There can't be any disclaimer in there by myself it has to be -him- talking down to me to help him get his fucking jollies? In the past Leia had told me, "If you have any problems with SJR just e-mail me." Indeed, you might remember when I tried to edit his insult away from that other update he just happily edited it back and forth and this went on for over an hour (I realized early on he could keep this up a lot longer than I could) and I didn't have the patience to go through this crap again, particularly with him in full on rage mode now as opposed to "happy" mode. So, I put him on regular status and tried to keep him from using the front page to insult me or have anything up there insulting me. I then e-mailed Leia (who told me to e-mail her in case of any future problems between me and SJR) and tried talking to SJR. Can you guess how that went? I did a topic in staff complaining that I was being harassed by him again and that he had just gone ahead and done that update without any consultation and that there shouldn't have been any problems with me putting it in my update. I also e-mailed Leia about it since she'd asked me to e-mail him in case of any future problems. What happened? Well for one, SJR updated the front page- "You think just because you banned me from the admin boards you can keep me from updating the the front page, HUH, you goddamned fucking idiot?!!" He then put up this lovely little topic interpreting things in his own special way. What next? Oh yeah, the staff doesn't give a shit. They don't really give me any chance to explain my side of the story and focus solely on the fact I temporarily changed SJR's status (regardless of the reason why, everything he's done to me repeatedly for months or the fact I immediately admitted it and explained why before they asked- and the fact they hadn't made a big deal when I did that to SJR after he immediately edited my editorials again after admitting it was him to stop him from doing so, or the fact I was doing to keep him from insulting me on the front page) then SJR, Ski and Illj start cursing me out and demanding my head and that I be severely punished or banned. SJR starts playing the victim card and they focus solely on that without giving me any chance to defend myself. Then the "toriyama" bot makes this lovely topic. I really can't tell you what a giant dagger in the back that felt like. Wait, how much of another giant fucking dagger that felt like. All along for months SJR had harassed me nonstop. The staff had just ignored it, denied it and looked the other way. When I brought up every single shitty thing he'd done to me, they then demanded and acted like he shouldn't be punished in the least. SJR uses the front page to insult me, refuses to allow any disclaimer up there unless it's him insulting me, threatens me yet fucking again- then I get pissed and understandedly don't want him talking shit about me on the front page again- and then all of a sudden there's something wrong? I had been under a lot of stress before, but this was the last straw. I tried talking to Leia about it but she refused to listen. She said she disagreed with SJR's update but that it should be left alone to "punish" me for having altered it. When I pointed out how much stuff SJR had done without being punished, and talked about how John had been banned for harassing Cleo, she just complained that it was in the past and that SJR was a staff member and John wasn't. Just like she'd told me earlier, "I've been trying to help you, but I am not going to ban one of my staffers." When I called her out on the fact she'd probably ban SJR if he wasn't a staffer she simply refused to discuss it anymore. We agreed on another "compromise" of me taking a break from the site. However, there was one little catch I didn't mention- it was permanent break. I'd made up my mind then and there to leave the DBZOA. But before I go, I'd like to give a message to those I used to consider my costaffers. I know that some of you (pretty much Illj, Ski and SJR) have complained that I stopped going to staff meetings a long time ago. Do you want to know why I stopped bothering to waste a few hours every other week to sit in the chat room? Do you remember the thing with TW and DBGT BW? You see, TW came from a fairly popular DBZ UK dub fan site called ukdb.net. DBGT came out in Canada and the U.K. under a seperate dub by "Blue Water" studios. Beforehand Canda had released DBZ by "Ocean Studios." Basically he came by and gave me a comparison of the first two episodes and said, "Hey, I'd like to compare the Blue Water dub for your site." So I posted the first one up and later second- then later said I'd start up a section for that and he could send me more then. (where it'd be visible on the front page and so forth, like DBZ Uncensored 2 and DBZ Uncensored with large logos linking to their sections) I talked about this to the staff and expected one of them to do it. I kept getting a bunch of wishy-washy responses and, "oh I'll handle that" but.... nobody did anything. Nothing. I asked the staff because I was always usually busy with other content and they barely did any work and I figured they'd be happy to do this for the site. I heard some vague promises and kept waiting for them tp be fulfilled. They just ignored it and completely forgot about it. This really annoyed the hell out of me- we lost up 62 possible free episodes comparisons, probably at least a dozen, just because the staff had been so damned lazy and uncaring, and because I'd made the mistake of trusting in the other staff to actually take the time and care enough to make a section.... but you guys didn't. Besides that whatever happens in staff meetings? Nothing. The majority of staff chats is mostly just gossiping/yapping about the boards/fooling around, and rarely is anything accomplished. And a large number of the past "meetings" have just been making plans for that whole Dbzoa staff slumber party. Even that whole "Otaku Alliance" thing (list of various sites dealing with uncensored stuff) took almost one and a half years from when I first heard about it before it got put up with just 3 links. Interviews, news, comparisons, features, etc. etc.- none of that really got talked about or anything. I mean, Leia at least put up 1/2 of the Dragon Ball Uncensored comparisons from the Piccolo Daimaoh saga that someone else wrote and has actually done a fair amount of other work but nobody else has really done much of anything. The whole "alter the site's appearance" thing was just about the only project taken seriously but I'm not even sure if that project was such a great idea in the first place since it looks like complete crap compared to the old design. Fanfictions, the very occasional fanart, and uh... is it really a wonder I once complained at you guys that I was the hardest worker here and none of you really held up your share of work? I know that may have annoyed some of you and bruised your egos when I did that (particuarly Illj's) but that's the truth! Working on a site shouldn't just be about filling up your ego and being able to brag, "Oh yeah, I'm a big staff member at (insert name of popular site) hahaha!" You should work on a site because you WANT to contribute and because you actually DO contribute! The problem most of the staff is that... Dbzoa become one of those sites that hardly ever really updates yet perpetuates itself. You may remember long when Chris Psaros retired. Why'd he do it? Because he'd gotten to a point where he stopped updating all the time with content focused on the original goals of his site. I mean, he did still care and wanted DBZ to be treated respectfully and all but he'd reached the end of how far he wanted to go and had already accomplished a lot and so, he chose to retire while he was on top instead of dragging it out. Remember Azrael's goodbye? He did the same thing! He felt he'd worked hard and accomplished a lot but... he got to the point where he stopped updating as much as he used to. And so, he retired and left to pass on the torch. Now he's working at a new extremely popular site which, for better or worse, people are literally kanchoing themselves over because it's just that damned funny! And you know what? It's okay for your interests to change. You should go with what you want to go with not just keep dragging it out. Seashore Angel did a lot of good work at the DBZOA too and although he didn't write a goodbye editorial, he retired when he felt it was time. If you don't care that's fine, but you shouldn't make up excuses and lie to yourselves and take up a perfectly good staff position that'd be better off in somebody else's hands. And what's worse is that you didn't even give a fuck if someone comes along and does a lot of work. I mean, all my movie comparisons, news, features, interviews, specials- I interview someone from Toei and none of you even bothered to thank me. Same with interviewing someone from FUNimation- the only reaction I got was hearing from someone else that Illy was angry and complained behind my back that I'd made a remark behind my back about starting the site in the update I posted the interview (which was a reference to DBZU 2) expressing contempt and jealousy towards me. And I'm mentioning those two contributions specifically because I think those two were the single biggest ones yet, they got no fucking mention or serious thanks from you guys at all. And you guys couldn't even be bothered to thank me when I got Umino to write about meeting Akira Toriyama, which I'm sure any other DBZ site would have been more then delighted to get. JD was surprised as hell when I showed that to him but for you guys it wasn't even worth bothering to acknowledge. Readers may have thanked/emailed me for posting that, but what's the point in even posting this here if none of the other staff can show an iota of gratitude? And barely anything else I've done has gotten any thanks either. I can only think of rare occasions like getting YGO Uncensored hosted here and even then the thanks there was just a very brief spurt of some acknowledgement of gratitude. I mean, Crippler and Leia were nice about that kind of stuff but that's about it. Is it really a wonder then I complained at you guys for not working hard or caring about the site? And it's not just me you don't thank- it's pretty much anyone. Take when two people tried to join for instance. What'd they get told for asking? Ski- "As for the topic at hand. We aren't the "DBZOA" so first off, if you're asking for a staff position at least get the website name correct. Secondly - we generally come to the members when we NEED a staffer. From there we decide who fits best for what we need done. Thirdly - our Webmaster has a fine handle on all our coding and page design needs, and he handles all those things. If we need staff we will come to you guys. But Mystic was right, the first step towards getting staffed is not to beg. Thanks." Just being insulted and demeaned and told they're not needed? By a bunch of staff who barely do any work? Nah. Instead, I decided to apologize to each of the two people. I apologized for Ski being a jerk, and explained the situation about most of the staff not really doing any work (or caring about that kind of stuff anymore) aside from Leia or me. I then told them that the best way to join would be to just submit so much content that they decide to make you a staffer, like what Leia did with me. Webby did about one review. However Conan decided to review the DBGT Special. Now I'll be honest it probably wasn't the best review. But hey, it took me 5 movie reviews until I felt like I started doing really great movie comparisons with DBZ Movie 7 and onwards and his review is better than most of the movie reviews I did before then. In other words, it takes a little bit of (or sometimes a lot of, in my case) practice but eventually you get the hang of it. Then again I would rank his DBGT Special review as far better than at least 95% of the other reviews for that review out there. He's also submitted a lot of other work in the past few months to Dbzoa to, making him the 2nd or 3rd most productive person during that time after Leia. I spoke to him on aim and stuff, hanged out and talked to him about site stuff. He posted a lot of news on the boards and did a comparison on the first new DBZ redub dvd. Eventually I got him in contact with YGO Uncensored (since he was a really big YGO fan and had the bonus of knowing Japanese) and he almost joined them. Unfortunately he didn't due to a variety of reasons and left. And how'd he get treated when he expressed interest in joining? Pretty crappily, and he just got ignored. And how'd he get treated when he left? ... About the same. You see my dear old staff, hard work is something that should be -appreciated- as well as -encouraged- in people. It's not something you should just ignore and forget about while not doing anything for the site. He was a damn good worker with a lot of potential but your lacks of interest in the site among other things helped make him decide to leave. And on the staff/mods boards- nobody gave a shit about him at all! In fact, about the only time I've seen him mentioned there was about one time in a staff chat when someone called him an attention whore.... THAT'S the only thanks the guy gets for all his hard work here?! Gets insulted from the moment he offers to help and insulted after he leaves? Then gets made fun of behind his back? (Added note- in late July of 2005, Leia made positive mention of him contributing some content around then. Thus, my complaint here doesn't really apply to Leia so much... but it certainly does to the rest of the staff here) Is it any wonder the DBZOA's not exactly been doing a "great" job of recruiting new staff? The fact that so many staff insist on staying long after they've ceased being useful and productive, while insisting no new staff are needed and deluding themselves into thinking they're doing a lot of work doesn't help matters either. For God's sake, if every single staffer could just post.... ONE.... single... thing per month (news, editorial, opinion submission, feature, reprinted interview- and I know "one thing per month" sure as hell isn't too much work) the site would actually get active updates. But nobody does much anymore besides Leia. I always hear, "But later we'll have so many episode reviews, later we'll review so many dvd's, later we'll put in so much stuff" but it's ALWAYS "later" and never "now" or "soon". And one of the plans I heard of later asking almost every single old staffer who's quit if they'd like to come back and help didn't exactly inspire much confidence in me either. You have to make a site that's worth working at, and put in content that's worth being able to say that you actually contribute to that site and care about it. AND you actually have to be nice to people who express interest and encourage/support them- while not being rude, and while not having the staff be filled up with too many people who don't work. But on all of these levels the DBZOA completely has failed miserably. This is why the DBZOA has so little new content these days and why it's going to have so very little new content in the future. And after all the crap I've been through by SJR and his two asshole friends while you've all ignored it and done absolutely nothing to help me, that has left me very jaded to the point I really don't want to work for the DBZOA or give any it any time, effort or work or help the DBZOA in any way. I feel disgusted, I feel the staff is ungrateful and doesn't care but most of all, I feel betrayed. At the way you guys have behaved, at the way you guys haven't behaved and of the backwards way this site has been run. And so, I am going and I am gone. But before I go I'd like to say something to each of you. Crippler... you were a nice guy. You're pretty friendly, funny sometimes; fun to hang around with and you haven't really been an asshole or jerk before. Okay, I was kind of mad when you dissed Conan when he left and I strongly disagreed with you when you said we shouldn't mention fansubs because the anime community's changed and isn't as accepting/or whatever of them anymore (although they're more popular then ever... just look at animesuki.com's hit counter) but... those two disagreements are kind of like drops in the buckets compared to some of the other people here. Overall you've been a nice person and someone I can actually I'm proud to have had as a co-staffer. Even though you didn't really do much work (like reviews and stuff) I don't hold that against you since when you became a mod that was never really expected of you or anything. But honestly though- the DBZOA sucks. It's gone downhill and it's a terrible site and I don't see anything that will come of it in the future. Although you once told me you didn't want to get involved with all that stuff between SJR and me, I am grateful at least that you rejected any of his attempts to hand you any of his pitchforks or torches and that you always tried to keep everybody calm and friendly and non-fighting, regardless of how impossible of a task that was. But I'm sorry you've decided to be a jerk to me and lie about because I left and got tired of all the bullshit of this place. Canik.... I really don't know you too well. But from what I know of you you seem like an alright guy and an okay person who at least cares somewhat about the site and can be honest with himself about what he wants to do and contribute to the site unlike what some of the staff have been like. I'll just be honest, there's nothing here at the Dbzoa except a desert which contains an airconditioned museum of the old days in the middle of it where all work that was done/put into motion and stuff can remain for viewing by visitors. If you want to work at a good/actively updated site.... I'm sorry but this isn't the place. Try to take it easy. Cleo... what's there to say? I kind of have mixed feelings about you. You've always been nice to me when we talked, yet you weren't the least sympathetic or supportive at all when SJR began his deranged crusade against me even though I've never really been rude to you before. It's like you're nice to me most of the time but only aren't whenever there's something going on between me and SJR. I mean, when John went out of his way to harass the crap out of you nonstop you complained about how much it stressed you out and the entire staff actually bothered to listen to you and deal with it. It's not i made fun of you for complaining, told you to shut the hell up because "John wasn't messing with you," told you that were crazy to imagine John was messing with you and that you needed to get some drugs or see a psychologist to treat your obvious self-esteem problem, nor is it like I yelled at Jesus's name then threatened you if you dared to insult John back then threatened to ban you or punish you if anything happened to John.... like old Illy did with me and SJR. I actually stood up for you because I knew you were being harassed and it was unfair that John kept messing with you like that. I'd hoped that after John had harassed you so hard and everybody (including me) sympathized with you and banned him for acting like a psycho to you, you'd actually be able to understand where I was coming from with SJR. But you didn't. Trust me, as bothered as you were by John's actions towards you I've had it a hell of a lot worse from SJR. You're not a bad/despicable person nor do you have an inflated ego and you are kind of nice but I really wish you had been better able to understand where I was coming from. Nola... well, you're not a staff member since you left some time ago. But you were always polite in your dealings with me and respectful/non-insulting and although you never really helped me with my problems with SJR (well, pretty much nobody on staff did either) you certainly never accepted any of his pitchforks or torches in his endless crusade against me. I know you worked hard back in the early days of DBZOA to help build it and I respect that but unfortunately this site is pretty much dead. I don't know what the future holds for you but there are bigger and better things in life and I hope you find them. George is my name, Loner, crusaderoflight88... I really don't know any of you guys that well though I guess you don't seem that bad. None of you have really messed with me but then again none of you have really helped me particularly with SJR and his shit clique harassing me nonstop. Nor have you shown much consideration to the site except maybe for just Project Shinonome. As for crusaderoflight88, that whole Dbzoa-AntiFunimation chronicles you did was pretty hilarious. But you haven't done much work since. And I have to say I really like how after I complained at months of harassment and threats by SJR you told me to forget about it and acted like he had done nothing wrong. Yet when he harassed me again and got me to respond just how he wanted you immediately called for me to have some kind of horrible punishment even after having ordered he be granted complete leniency and forgiveness for doing something far worse. And Android Kaeli. You never really messed with me except once, during one of SJR's rage-filled crusades against me. And although you temporarily supported me when I tried to get him banned for his unending harassment of me, you made the mistake of thinking he should stay. It's wrong the way I've been treated by SJR and it's the wrong the way others like yourself have just let it slide like it's no big deal. Sure, SJR is nice to other people. Hell, no matter how crazy he is and how much he hates me now he actually used to be nice to me and openly friendly/appreciative towards me. But it's no excuse for others around him like yourself to be bad Samaritans and simply look the other way and do nothing simply because he's been only nice to you and shown you only his good side. Let me give you an example- KevinTRod is my friend. However, if he went apeshit psycho on some innocent person who never messed with him repeatedly and harassed, treatened, attacked, obsessed over him violently, I would not accept that behavior from him simply because KevinTRod is nice to me. "Who cares if this person treats others like shit as long as they're nice to me?" That's a very pisspoor attitude to have to accept or tacitly condone with or without realizing it. You're not a bad person but you've condoned those who are. Now we come to Wedge. Wedge- what can I say about you? You're an extremely arrogant individual. You really, really do not like nor can you stand being proven wrong or to have your stances/beliefs challenged (like when you listed Henry Ford as a "great American", then got angry and tried to defend his being a "great American" from a business-point of view when I pointed out how he helped finance and support Hitler's rise) but when you feel you are right you like to belittle others or just insult people in general. And even though we were supposed to have stopped fighting and just moved on it was pretty fucking disgusting of you to deliberately ignore all the times SJR harassed while you sat back and purposefully did nothing while smiling to yourself in cold revenge. You don't know how to move past old grudges and are pretty veangeful and self-absorbed. Yeah, I edited in a picture of "sexy Trunks" in your sig and made it hard for you edit it out, but that was only after I'd gotten complaints from several people who'd complained you'd harassed them. And I called you an asshole and threatened to quit after you threatened to ban me for doing that. It's not like you're not jerk, I remember on staff/mods when you bragged about hoping to drive two different people away from the boards. In any case I've had far worse happen to me here than what I did to you after several people e-mailed me fussing about how you harassed them away from the boards, and I've tried to be nice back to those people (particularly Illj) to no avail while you were utterly incapable of doing the same to me. And I have to say, I love how "neutral" you've been in your dealings with the staff, intentionally sitting back and doing nothing when I got harassed by Illy and SJR but immediately complaining to me about me picking on Illy when I flamed him after I found out he'd allowed Psaros's site to be edited by someone other than him. But, I will give you some credit. Even though you've never really produced any new content relevant to the DBZOA in terms of stuff like opinions, news, interviews, etc. since 2001, you have always been on hand for computer problems and fixing the board and stuff. Between you, Leia (though Leia's still the only who still does anything relating to the original goals of the site) and VGF you're the only ones to really put in a decent amount of work into the site. VGF... well, I don't really know you very well. But like I just said you actually pay for the message boards and help maintain them, making you one of the only 3 people to put in a decent amount of time and work into the site. I really wish you'd done more to help me with the crap I went through with SJR but I am grateful that you at least helped calm down his last angry lynch mob when he was yet once again trying to score his goal of ultimate vengeance. So thanks for that but honestly, this place has gone to hell in a hand basket. Now we come to Ski. Ski, what can I say about you? For one you're an arrogant little bastard. You don't contribute very much to the site, you don't really care about the site and when ever someone disagrees with you or argues with you you often result to making foul remarks ("Yeah, why don't you go blow me?") or you curse people out loudly like some kind of a drunken sailor. Then you brag about how much you do when you barely do anything. You don't really make good arguments, you frequently obsess over bragging about how mature you are while questioning other people's maturity level (like when you've argued to me and Leia before) but most of all, you're just extremely obnoxious. (Also, about me complaining about putting in silly titles for updates and how fucking horrible it is- so? Lots of sites do the same thing and while they don't always make the viewer laugh, "oh, that joke about the comparison for episode random number farting just has me on the floor!" or, "ahaha, he yelled west side!" do you know why it's done? It's because it gets boring just staring at a computer screen for hours and hours fiddling with html, reformating stuff and writing. It's not always hilarious, hell usually it's dumb, but it's just a way for the people writing not to take things too seriously and to at least make themselves chuckle. Kind of like when Leia wrote, "Happy President's Day... oops, too late" or whatever she wrote for that one. Of course, as someone who's put in so little actual time, effort and work into the site I can see how such a concept would be so completely foreign to you and completely impossible to understand.) When I called out on not working you just make up an endless amount of excuses. "I got problems man- personal problems. So back off!" "@!$!@$!! I do lots of DVD reviews man so don't bitch, I'm busy." "Hey, I got family problems man. @#$@#$ leave me alone god damn it", "I worked on the site transfer. You didn't. So @#$%@#$ complaining," and crap like that. But... you do NOT work very hard at all. A few DVD reviews by you... a few DVD reviews by other people... working a little bit on the ugly site transfer then announcing your "triumphant return" by posting someone else' review is NOT a hell of a lot of work. You talk a lot about "changing" the site like you're somehow entitled to ("I don't give a crap about Dragon Ball. Hell, I don't give a crap about any dubs!"), then talk about moving it on to other stuff just because it's more "mainstream" with the anime community (saying stuff like it'd be wrong for the site to focus on butchered manga, like Naruto which you actually consider yourself a "fan" of.... simply because doing so wouldn't be "mainstream" enough) and various crap like that. I also don't like how you (and to lesser extents, Illy and SJR) kept complaining about fansubs being evil and how you don't give a shit what happens to any other show unless it's Naruto. Even when I wrote at length to challenge your viewpoints you still didn't bother to give any response or many reasons. And no, Wedge hasn't done nearly as much work or put in nearly as much time in the site as I have, even with that 4 weeks of rushing to put up the new site appearance right before he went to Japan. (Also, the guy I interviewed from Toei isn't exactly a "super secret" source like you once bitched about. If you ever bothered to pay attention you'd realize that he posts openly on the DBZOA message boards you fucking idiot. Also, yeah, he is directly in Manilla, Phillipines. And also, for all your bitching about those doing damn "ghetto shit" updates all the time I only did them about 3 fucking times.) And then that crap about insulting Conan and that other when they came... then treating Conan like shit after he left without ever having thanked him for anything, while bragging about what a good thing it is he's gone- "Well, you lied about being in a car accident, so you're already on the right path to a career in politics. And you were here for less than a year, that's hardly retiring. w00t. One less crazed DBZ member to deal with." That shows just how "mature" you really are. Besides, there's nothing wrong with liking any anime series (I don't care if it's Pokemon, Full Metal Alchemist, Doremi, Naruto, or DBZ, whatever someone likes is fine by me... not counting hentai) and insulting people for liking one is an incredibly immature and selfish attitude. Besides, that car accident stuff- yeah, it is kind of weird he said it was him but meant it to get sympathy for his sister or whatever, but at least he admitted it and it's not like that was anywhere as bad as when Illj tricked everybody into thinking he was leaving the DBZOA permanently. To sum it up- you're a disgusting, foul mouthed, immature, hateful, arrogant person who barely does any work for the site and has overall been a useless member in terms of actually putting in time and content. (Seriously- would it kill the staff to put in at least one single update during every monthly period?) You're also way, way too far behind on even keeping up with your own section. I'm just really glad I don't have to deal with your attitude anymore and that's one thing about this site I'm certainly not going to miss. (Note- during the time I first wrote this, you left without of course doing any of the multiple things that were right on the horizon. In your own words of why you left, "because the Dbzoa now sucks." I gotta say Ski, I definitely gotta agree with you there.) Now we come to Illj. Illy, what is there to say about you? As bad as Ski has been you're far worse than him. I just love how, despite remarks from SJR such as "Do you masturbate while thinking about yourself?" or lovely little discussions between us like this one you were able to look at me boldfaced and say without the slightest hint of doubt or sarcasm while insisting that you and SJR had "never insulted me before in the slightest" then earlier saying, "When I insult you you'll KNOW it." It's one thing to be an asshole, and it's another thing to at least admit when you've been an asshole. But to be an asshole- and to be completely and utterly incapable and unwilling to admit to it in any shape or form that you are- is really the complete pinnacle of being an asshole. You have "insulted" me many times and have been extremely hateful and rude. All along I avoided insulting you and I simply tried being nice back and what'd I get? I was attacked even more and more by you. I love how after you spent so long insisting you'd never insulted me before that you then tried to twist it around against me and said, "you'd have to be an idiot to think I've never insulted you," after I compiled a list of all of your insults in plain view... not even realizing that you had actually just called your past self an idiot by saying that. But what's really ironic is that, after your arrogant little letter where you ignored any attempts by me to try to reconcile any differences then told me not to "dare to imagine why" you dislike me, (and after your last hypocritical joining in of SJR's last crusade I love how you insisted he not get punished in the slightest and was completely undeserving of any punishment earlier, then later demanded my head on your platter for something far lesser. You're a real complete and utter fucking hypocrite Illj) I decided to treat you like shit... and your behavior started to change. Hell, after I'd made up my mind to leave I gave up on even trying to be nice to you and decided to treat you the same way you and SJR had treated me. But what happened? Surprisingly- you started insulting me less and actually started being kind of/sort of nice to me every so often! When I tried being nice to you you viewed it as a sign of "weakness" and held me in contempt for it. Then when I treated you like shit.... (before when being nice) Illj- "$#@%!@#! Goddamit! Why does he keep acting nice to me? Fuck that shit, goddamn asshole... it's none of his business why I despise him! How dare he try to imagine that?!! That fucker needs some drugs and therapy if he believes I or SJR have ever fucked around with him before, when all we've ever done is be nice and non-rude in a polite and fair manner!" (after treating you like shit back...) Illj- "Woah... this guy's really insulting me a lot now. HEY- I KNOW! Now that he's treating me like complete shit and making fun of me and holding me in contempt, and keeps repeatedly suggesting to me that I should go get repeatedly assraped by a giant black inmate from prison- maybe I should be nice to him some of the time and not mess with him as much! Ah man, I was wrong about that Saiyaman guy! He's not so bad after all!" Sure, you've still insulted me sometimes but not as much and with the occasional nice comment, but.... what the hell? That's a really fucked-up way of looking at things. In fact, that's basically a malicious-hearted attitude to have... basically, a bully's attitude. A bully treats someone like shit, makes fun of them and demeans them- why? For one it's a means of relieving stress, using that person as a target of anger and a way of venting frustration. It's also a way of casting and of psychologically expressing themselves in a superior light in the minds of themselves and others- "that person is inferior to me, and I am superior to them. That is why I insult him, and why he bears my insults as such." It also (to those around the bully and bullied) creates an atmosphere of interpretations where, the bully is viewed as being stronger and the bullied is viewed as being weaker. Oftentimes, bullies are unconsciously rewarded (and deliberately ignored) for their actions and the perceptions for which those around them view them in while the bullied individual is held in contempt. Putting aside all the fancy psychology/sociology terms and definitions aside, that basically means that a bully really gets off on acting like a dick to people. For the bullied, to respond positively, nicely- that is viewed by the bully maliciously. "Bahhh! He can't stand up to me, he is too weak to do so! This weakling is getting what he deserves, I'm just trying to toughen him up and if he can't handle it that's his problem!" However, when the bullied attacks the bully (see Rocky V with Rocky's son knocking the shit out of that one asshole kid. And in similar reallife incidents, if someone like the son had just tried "winning him over with niceness".... he'd simply continue to get bullied.) the bully develops a sense of respect for the person. They have exhibited strength and have also posed/presented themselves as a threat or at least someone who can hold their own. They were previously only targeted because they were viewed as a weaker target, one the bully could get away with messing with. Ie, a short dorky kid would be viewed as a prime target by a bully. A giant, obese football player nicknamed "The Refrigerator" would be viewed as an extremely poor target. For me though, I didn't view our interactions as "bully vs. bullied" like I should have because "Internet bullying", reading HTML from some foul asshole from far away, can be viewed differently than having that same stuff happen to you in real life. If someone was directly acting like that to my face then I'd tell them to fuck off. I didn't take you posting crap as seriously as I should have since it was just angry computer coding online from someone foul jerk I didn't have to directly deal with. In fact, for a long time I even looked at it as me having done something to offend you and me trying to make it up for you- when you just viewed it as the above. But basically you do fit the bully mentality Illj- that of someone with a malicious heart and way of viewing himself and others, and that's yet another reason I'm not going to miss you. I mean really- you're like that fucked-up wookie from Knights of the Old Republic II. During the game he repeatedly screams in rage about how much he hates this one girl that saved his life and how he wants to kill her, even though she's always nice to him in spite of it... then later, when he finds a new master that treats him like complete shit, he brags that that person understands him and knows how to treat him just right. Let me explain something. If someone's nice to you and doesn't mess with you, you're supposed to be nice back or at least not mess with them. If someone is mean to you and messes with you, you're supposed to be mean back or not be nice to them. If you treat someone like shit who's just nice to you, that's fucked up. But if you actually start acting much nicer to someone that starts treating you like a miserable piece of shit, then that's even more fucked up. Respect is supposed to be mutual, not something you give once the other person decides to treat you like a piece of shit. But let's move away for a second from how foul you've been and focus on the site- what have you done here? You haven't done jack! Sure, you've posted a bunch of fanfics and fanart but... basically you haven't done much of anything! I'm going to quote KevinTRod's reaction to that fansubs post update to summarize how I best feel about the current direction of this site- ********** (YGO Uncensored News, January 16th) Kevin- "I'm in a VERY good mood today! Why am I in a very good mood you ask? I'm in a good mood because the very first season/series/animated cartoon of "Yu-Gi-Oh!" is being fansubbed, and you can get the fansubs through the bittorent at Anime Suki.com here! This is a GREAT day for me because the main reason I opened this site was NOT to improve the dub (although I hoped it would be improved), it was NOT because I liked comparing episodes (although it can be fun), it was to raise interest in the first series, in hopes that it would either be fansubbed completely, or that someone would buy the rights to the series and release uncut duel language DVD's of the series!! Well this may not be the DVD's I was ultimately hoping for, but until those come out I'm in heaven! I guess the uncut DVD's of the second series combined with the cool uncut manga (which Viz still does an excellent job with might I add) was enough to convince someone that fansubbing this series was worth their time (or maybe they decided to check it out and secretly loved it themselves and decided to share the love). Either way, this is an EXCELLENT opportunity to check out the original series that many YGO! fans consider to be the best season/series of the ENTIRE YGO! anime! Of course, with this news I have a beef with the very same news that I have to rant about (pull up a chair folks, this could be a long one). Now don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with the news itself, I have a problem with where I got it from and where I don't see it anymore. I would like to say that I have the bragging rights and was the first to report about these fansubs, but I'm actually not the first to report on this. In fact, I got the news from my parent site "The Otaku Alliance," and the one and only GreatSaiyaman777 (the only person aside from Leia who does any actual WORK on that site) posted the news, and because the news was posted there I wasn't going to say anything until much later (this way he could get the credit for reporting this story). However when I looked at the site now, it appears that G's news post gone. Vanished! Disappeared! No longer lingering! However an extremely pointless post by SJR (apologizing for being late in getting work done, while then continuing to post fan fiction) stays on the site. What the %#&&?! I'm sorry, but aren't you guys supposed to be "The OTAKU Alliance?!" Wasn't "The Otaku Alliance" put together for the sole purpose of being a haven for anime fans who feel cheated by the big companies? Many YGO! fans are disgusted by the way 4Kids treats the anime, they want to see the first series subtitled...heck, they want to see the first series PERIOD (even hardcore fans have had a hard time even FINDING the first series to watch in raw Japanese format)! The first series is not licensed yet, so these fansubs are perfectly legal, yet someone at "The Otaku Alliance" apparently thinks that this news shouldn't be on the front page but fanfiction can (Note to SJR: If people want to read fanfiction, then they can go to fanfiction.net or a website that SPECIALIZES in fanfiction, not a news and comentary site). Yeah, guess you can see why I'm so pissed off huh? In my opinion, if "The Otaku Alliance" feels that fanfiction and DBGT scripts are more important then actually news that could help out a lot of fans (which are the people they are making the site for apparently), then they need to rename their site and focus on those things. But stop cluttering up the news page with useless fanfics, and don't you DARE censor important news like this! Now I bet you're all freaking out by now, and pointing out that the ones who host my site are none other then "The Freaking Otaku Alliance" themselves! How could I dare bite the hand that feeds me so easily? Easy: I don't really LIKE "The Otaku Aliance" anymore! When "The Otaku Alliance" used to be the "Dragon Ball Z Otaku Alliance" there were updates all the time, news that was important posted, lots of editorials and commentaries, and a whole bunch of stuff that was worth reading. When the DBZOA realized that there was really nothing more to say about DBZ and the way it was being treated, they realized that they needed to change so that they could, as a site, move forward. Since there were a lot more poor dubs from companies like Nelvana and 4Kids Entertainment, they decided to change into "The Otaku Aliance," and focus their energies on all anime that needed fans to back it up. The idea was good in theory: A safe haven that would fight for every butchered anime, a place where fans could go to get info and help in saving their favorite shows from abomination. However ever since the change what has "The Otaku Alliance" actually accomplished? Not much. Well let's see here...SJR posted an editorial on why "The Otaku Alliance" will always be alive, and an editorial explaining that he will fight to make sure that "Naruto" doesn't fall into the wrong hands (although what's he's actually done in that fight is anyone's guess). Another member posted a couple of editorials about plaques in fanfiction and an editorial called "DBZ Vs. Naruto" (gee, like THAT is supposed to help the cause). Otherwise though, with the exception of GreatSaiyaman's editorials, I would say that "The Otaku Alliance" has essentially done nothing...at least, they haven't done anything that has to do anything with their goal in mind. The only thing I see every week is Leia posting a new DBGT comparison or script, and a couple new fanfictions posted by SJR every couple of weeks, otherwise though nothing. See the frustration yet? Even though some of our updates are a little silly sometimes, I have ALWAYS made it clear that if this site were to EVER lose focus on it's main goal (spreading the news about dubbed YGO!) then I would shut the site down! When I started to get too busy to handle the site by myself I brought JD on board to help out with the comparisons. Not only that, but my inside news people Moal and Ultraseiya are always giving me cool news that I can use on this site, so while I may make an update every now and then for the pure sake of getting something in my personal life off my chest, I NEVER let this site lose focus of it's goal! That's why I refuse to post fanfiction. I refuse to post fanfiction, fanart, scripts, and all that other stuff for the pure and simple fact that stuff like that doesn't belong here...at all! However it doesn't belong on "The Otaku Alliance" either (at least, it shouldn't in many a fans eye). So the question is, why is that the only thing they post now? I fully well expect this rant is going to get me in trouble, and if anyone over at "The Otaku Alliance" would like to complain to me, you can e-mail me and I'll give you my AIM screen name. Don't worry, I'll behave myself. So yes people, I'm a little bitter right now. But let it be known here and now: GreatSaiyaman actually posted some USEFUL news on "The Otaku Alliance" yesterday! And the staff took it down. Now you can decide what you think of their site." ********** Do you see what I mean? And I'm not too impressed by SJR's general response (http://dbzoa.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=170&page=1) or your fansubs response either. (http://dbzoa.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=171&page=1) Honestly- you told me fansubs are "sleazy" and so is linking to them. But how exactly is Toriyama's World a "sleazy" site or how was Chris Psaros's site sleazy? The obvious answer- neither were nor are. You see Illj, the point of the Dbzoa (or at least what the point of it used to be) was.... (drum roll) to point out inaccuracies in butchered animes and encourage more fans to check out and become fans of the original version of DBZ in addition to other series. Take One Piece for instance- right now it has almost 150 different episodes/movies fansubbed and because of it, there's a huge hardcore fanbase that is giving 4Kids crap every step of the way they defecate on the series. And DBZ? Psaros would never have MADE DBZ Uncensored if he hadn't gotten introduced and become a fan of the series off of fansubs. And your beloved "Naruto" for which your high moral sense of downloading legality you claim to possess be damned, you can't bear to be without the newest release each week- fansubs are the main reason why Viz/Shopro is afraid of screwing up the show and anxious to put out a version that hardcore fans will find acceptable! Hell, had your beloved Naruto had zero fansubs and barely any hardcore fanbase then Viz would felt far less pressue to treat the show in a respectable manner. (like how Gash Bell/Zatch Bell is suffering complete music changes and other unnecessary edits like "making" their own episods, and the worst Naruto has is a crappy OP) Moreso than that, One Piece's miserable failure in America and it's fanbase rightfully attacking 4Kids as hard as humanly possible over what they did to it is another main reason Naruto is getting treated better by Viz/Shopro than it would have had there not been so many original fans introduced to it by fansub. And THAT is why fansubs are a good thing. I don't care if One Piece fansubs cost 4Kids a lot of money and support- and I'm VERY glad that they do! I'm glad they're causing fans to fight 4Kids. But there's no point in arguing with you/telling you that because you honestly don't care at all. The way you've handled being a staffer here has basically been the equivalent of someone joining fanfiction.net and trying to transform it into a Goku Shrine. Like you once said long ago, you're not into that whole activism thing anymore. So why the hell are you still here anyway? Like you've proudly and defiantly stated many times, "I am here for the sake of my friends." Sure, while that is a very noble-sounding reason... what the HELL does that mean? Seashore Angel and Azrael both left staff yet they still post on the boards sometimes. They can STILL come here for the sake of their friends even if they aren't staff members! All being a staffer means is editing html/stuff/adding things to the page, having access to Mods/Admins/Archives boards, and having mod powers and being able to brag that you're a staff member- that's it! And none of that really involves "being here for the sake of your friends"! You should be here because you WANT to be here and because you CARE about what the site's about, not so you can have a giant mod/admin symbol on your profile and brag that you're a staffer here, not so you can name an entire message board after yourself (not to compare you to some of Donald Trump's more positive qualities, but naming something after yourself is generally a sign of narcissism) or so you can change the site into something to suit your interests rather than what the site was originally about. For example, I'm not going to try to join atrios.blogspot.com just so I can post anime dvd reviews there. Nor am I going to join a Ruroni Kenshin site so I can push the liberal agenda. And I certainly wouldn't join a fanfiction site to make it a place for news and commentary. Yet, you seem to have no problems doing just these kinds of things with the Dbzoa just to suit your own interests instead of finding a site that already meets your interests. Also, I remember you once boasted to me that "we haven't neglected to talk about 4Kids." Who is that "we" whom you were referring to Mr. Illjwamh? Me? KevinTRod? Ultraseiya? Blastero? JD? Many of the actual regulars on the 4Kids/Other Poor Dubs boards who actually post there more than once in a blue moon? Because you sure as hell HAVE neglected to talk about 4Kids much. In fact, on the day 4Kids licensed One Piece... link 1 link 2 You didn't give a flying shit! You and some of the others were just bothered by the fact that the Dragon Ball board was becoming an eyesore. I mean, it's bad enough doing that to begin with but doing that on the exact same day 4Kids licenses One Piece without showing the least amount of interest in that happening.... And the only post you bothered to make about 4Kids licensing One Piece was an extremely half-assed and sarcastic one much later after I complained at how pathetic and hypocritical it was that you took far more interest in reducing the Dragon Ball board's status to a subforum than you did in the fact that 4Kids had a new anime to chop up. Even you said, "We never get anything done around here because we sit and talk about it forever but we never do anything," yet the one time you do something it's for something as asinine as this. And let me explain something... As for "representing" the site? You don't represent the site- at all! Let me ask you, did those five or so staffers over at YGO Uncensored who got fired "represent" YGO Uncensored? N-O. NO. If they'd made a few thousand posts at the YGO boards at Dbzoa, would they "represent" the site anymore? Hell no. If one of them had posted about 50 fanfics and bragged about outlawing links to YGO fansubs and been there for years then would that "represent" YGO U? Still no. The fact that they have official titles, and could brag that they're "workers" there meant nothing. To really represent a site means to put time and effort in to it, to actually care enough to put in content relevant to it and to truly care about it... not to just make up excuses why you're unable to while bragging about yourself and how cool you are. You may not like me, and you may not agree with me, but I've actually cared about the site and sacrificed a significant amount of time, effort and energy into it and you haven't, and thus I represent it far more than 20 of you combined could ever dream of doing. JD represents more than 20 times as many unproductive staffers for YGO U ever could or did, just as Leia and Azrael represent far more than 20 of you combined ever could for the Dbzoa. In short Illj, you have been an exceptionally terrible and lazy staffer. You have quite an ego and sense of entitlement over the direction of the site here but you've done very little to earn either. Aside from a very small handful of news posts (and only two since I stopped really updating the site in January, which was about half a year ago) unless you actually bother to count your, "Fansubs are evil and should stop being made, now if you'll excuse me I'm off to download Naruto for the hundredth or so time" the closest thing you've even done to actual work here was that one time when you begged Ultraseiya to get him to just hand over One Piece Uncensored to the Dbzoa. You've acted about the same as if some staffer over at narutofan.com, who'd bothered to post only a few fanfics and fanarts, decided to start bragging about how he should change it to suit his liking while treating the hardest and most caring worker there, Tazmo, like complete shit. I like how you always make up excuses whenever I complain at how little work you do, "my position here disappeared years ago and I'm waiting for Wedge to reinstall it" yet despite being so "busy" all the time, somehow over these years with so much you've managed to find the time to accumulate more posts on the DBZOA message boards than any other user there has. So what "little" free time you do have to spare to the site all goes straight into posting on the message boards and accumulating over 10,000 posts while posting at least 50-100 different images for your sig! And sometimes it seems like you can't even got 24 hours without having to change your sig image all over again. Sure, now that you've taken over the site (Wedge- "I really think he was the worst choice to take charge of this site. He is unreliable and just a fucking kiss ass. Putting him in charge is total bullshit." Bonehead- "This site is a dead horse that pretty much everyone has long given up flogging. You don't really need anyone to take charge at all. Who cares?" Canik- "I don't think he's serious. Because we all know that Illy is going to turn this place around! The site is going to have so much content soon we'll have to buy more bandwidth, and within a month this forum will be absolutely booming! Ain't that right, Illy?") you've started to crap out a few Naruto episode comparisons and news posts not to look completely inactive, but that's far too little far too late after everything that's happened before. (later note- he talked about doing the ep comparisons, but just made up excuses and ultimately abandoned the project. Someone else took interest in the project after I mentioned Illj not doing the comparisons anymore on the boards) You're also incredibly self-absorbed. Like how, because you wanted to get it over with, you insisted on editing Psaros' site yourself. However, you forgot (and then later disregarded) one very important thing- Psaros gave the DBZOA his site, in exchange for being promised it would NOT be edited. It doesn't matter how ridiculous a promise is, even if it was something like asking us to sacrifice and burn 50 olives each month to Zeus (which this certainly wasn't)- promises are things which are meant to be kept and which should be honored, particularly serious ones and ones which are forged after being given something far more valuable in return. And his giving the DBZOA his site is the luckiest break the DBZOA's ever gotten! Even after he'd been contacted and said he didn't want his promise broken- proving me right and you wrong (although, despite your repeated insults, I was polite about it all the way through while you still kept acting like a dick) you were still too arrogant to admit you were wrong. You then angrily acted like nobody, even Chris Psaros, could be trusted with the site's password (really, that's just as fucking retarded as someone saying Azrael couldn't be "trusted" with it) and then later you blasted me for not having changed it later expecting me to do it all for you despite how much you insulted me over it. I will agree with you about one thing though- that I should have done it. I should have just given Psaros the password, let him change it even if it meant me then having to listen to you bitch at me angrily for defying you before spending a small amount of time over one day having Wedge change the password while giving out a new one to everyone. I do deeply regret not doing that, especially since the site wound up being edited by someone else because of you. But it's pointless arguing with you or trying to talking any reason or sense into you because you're beyond a lost cause. Your fat ego, your refusal to leave the site long after you stopped caring and developed Card Captor Uncensored Fever, your lack of care about getting new staff/serious work into the site, simply posting fanfics on here... your arrogant attitude, your hypocritical self-righteous-proclaimed dealings of you towards me and SJR, letting him harass/threaten/insult/lie about/attack me nonstop for months with doing anything, boasting how "unbiased" you are in dealing with us then demanding my head on a platter when I temporarily change his status to keep him from putting an insult of me on the front page when he wouldn't allow me to keep his disclaimer in my update so it wouldn't be him doing it, and to try to avoid a fight with him... God, there is absolutely nothing I am going to miss about you. You are a thoroughly disgusting and hateful individual. You've contributed nothing to the site besides fanfictions and fanart yet you've developed an ego that suggests you've done far more here than you actually have. You are a disgusting, utterly rude individual and your presence here contributes nothing yet you insist you belong and should stay forever as it's leader. You're one of the single worst staffers this site's had and so to you I say, good riddance to bad company. (much later note- later after these writings above, you left. You promised Naruto comparisons, then you complained you wanted to do them in sets of 5, then you complained you were too busy/sick, and THEN your computer just happened to eat them! And most of the news you actually posted was just sloppy seconds from ANN anyway, like their interivew with Man-Faye. I honestly thought that when you took over the site, you'd do a little bit of content work, stop and make excuses then do nothing. Instead, you managed to completely exceed my non-expectations and do almost NO work. And now, your plans for the Dbzoa include taking it over to your new site "Illyworld" (an expansion of the message named after yourself) to "save you some cash" and also to leach off of it's and DBZU's popularity to give it some publicity.... Illy.... to take over the site from Leia after smooching her ass, yet with no real intentions or care for it beyond how cool it'd be to control it and have your name plastered all over it, then to ultimately leave and take the site with you to host it on a site named after yourself to leach off of it and DBZU as well as YGO U... instead of branching out completely on your own independently like Azrael did with Outpostnine.... really says a lot about you. Seriously, now that I'm gone I'm just going to say something to that's been a long time coming- fuck you Illy, fuck you.) ************************************************** ---------------------- And now we come to you SJR. The person we have to thank for pretty much all of this. Before we begin I'd like to take some time to read a little something from my Psychology textbook. "ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER Violating the Rights of Others Often referred to as a psycopath or sociopath, the individual with antisocial personality disorder has the ability to lie, cheat, steal, and otherwise manipulate and harm other people. And, when caught, the person shows little or no remorse for having caused harm to others. It's as though the person has no conscience or sense of guilt. This pattern of blatantly disregarding and violating the rights of others is the central feature of antisocial personality disorder. In the general population, approximately 3 percent of men and 1 percent of women display the characteristics of antisocial personality disorder. Evidence of this maladaptive personality disorder is often seen in childhood or early adolescence. In many cases, the child has repeated run-ins with the law or school authorities. Behaviors that draw the attention of authorities can include cruelty to animals, attacking or harming adults and other children, theft, setting fires, and destroying patterns. During childhood and adolescence, this pattern of behavior is typically diagnosed as conduct disorder. The habitual failure to conform to social norms and rules often becomes the person's predominant life theme, which continues into adulthood. Deceiving and manipulating other for their own personal gain is another hallmark of the individual with antisocial personality disorder. With an uncanny ability to look you directly in the eye and speak with complete confidence and sincerity, the person will lie in order to gain money, sex, or whatever their goal may be. When confronted with their actions, they respond with indifference or offer some superficial rationalization to justify their behavior. Often, they are contemptuous about the feelings or rights of others, blaming the victim for his or her own stupidity." The word "psychopath" often conjures up an image of a guy running around in his underwear with a knife yelling obscenities at people but in truth, this term refers more to the above. It's someone who basically acts in a way as if they had their conscience dissected from them and are able to act in their own self-interest without concerns to higher morality. Take Karl Rove for instance as shown in the movie "Bush's Brain." Now this is a movie that even a few Republicans I've shown it to have liked and agreed with. I highly recommend downloading/watching it to get an idea of what I'm talking about. Basically it's about how Karl Rove got where he is today. It talks about how when he was once 2nd in charge of the College Republicans organization he stabbed his friend in the back and lied about him causing him to lose his job and Karl Rove to take it. His friend when interviewed talked about it and even said that he'd planned of staying for 1 or 2 more years then passing on his job to Rove then. They'd been friends but Rove stabbed him in the back to get the job earlier and didn't feel any remorse or guilt about doing so. It also mentions campaign practices in Texas. One thing that's done 1,000's of times yearly (but technically illegal, though not usually enforced- about the political equivalent of tearing the tag off a mattress) Rove had some Democrat arrested for. During that time the stress killed the guy's mom. During an election in Texas a wiretap/bug was "found" in Rove's office. He immediately ranted and raved and acted like a victim, and the whole debate of the election/newspapers turned towards focusing on this incident. (which made the Democrat look bad and resulted in a tilting of the polls) However, it turned out the bug was only on for "15 minutes". Due to political considerations (guess which party's?) the FBI investigation into the alleged "crime" against Rove was called off. One would think an FBI investigation into a wire tapping of a governor's campaign ordinarily wouldn't get called off, and that the "real villain" would be found and results made public. And during the campaign between Bush and Governor Anne Richards, near the end of it Rove had Republicans spread rumors that she was a lesbian. I'm sure that had some effect on conservative Texas voters. Also, during the primaries with John McCain Karl Rove went all out. He had Republican operatives/loyalists throughout the states spread rumors that he'd fathered a love child with a black prostitute. (When in actuality McCain had just been NICE and tolerant enough to adopt a child of another color and culture) And during the recent election, well, one of Bush's lawyers was forced to leave because he'd broken some laws by illegally giving free advice to the so-called "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth." The head of that was even caught on tape telling Nixon about having gone to Cambodia, then denied it when asked about. It's like John McCain said when he briefly removed his "I hate your guts, but I'll lie and pretend to like you so I might be president in 2008" lips from Bush's rear end- "They're doing the exact same thing to him that they did to me!" (Republicans spread rumors that McCain had gone crazy from having been a Prisoner Of War, and of course, the whole black prostitute-child thing. Basically they smeared him completely and unfairly) And let's not forget "Memogate". Bush was under heavy attacks for having ducked Guard Duty. Burkett was one of his most outspoken critics. And Dan Rather is someone long hated by Republicans, as is dislike for CBS for not catering completely to Republican presidents. And thus began the whole "Memogate" incident when one "Lucy Rodriguez" contacted Burkett with "hot documents", gave it to him at a Houston rodeo and then they looked authentic enough at first glance that CBS decided to publish them. The White House press secretary when confronted with it, did not deny them and tried to spin then favorably towards Bush before latter enjoying the fallout. This last one is slightly debatable (though that immediately well-timed Lucy Rodriguez/rodeo/phone call/documents thing smells pretty damn suspicious, considering past tactics) but there's an obvious pattern emerging. With everything connected to Karl Rove, what do we see? A psychopath. And the whole, "@#$@ calling the Bush White House a bunch of liars about Iraq? His wife is fair game, let's out that CIA agent Valerie Plame," is already well-known so I'm not going to go indepth about it there. But again, his behavior/manipulations/actions are like those of a psycopath. Karl Rove acts in whatever way benefits Karl Rove and what Karl Rove wants. A regular person would have serious moral issues about covertly falsely accusing a war hero (who spent several years being tortured to boot!) of fathering a child with a black prostitute. That person would have felt something... a tinge of morality and conscience. I know I would. But Rove is able to act without considerations. Stabbing a friend in the back? "Hey, I'm just trying to get ahead. If that friend can't stop Karl Rove from doing what he's doing then he's an idiot who deserves to have the power taken away and put into more competent hands like Karl Rove's." That's what being a psychopath is all about- being able to act without any thoughts to morality or conscience. It's like one's had their conscience surgically removed from them and that "is this good or evil?" question in regards to certain actions never enters into their head. "How can this benefit me," "Can I get away with this without looking bad or getting in trouble," "Will this help me get what I want," "What's the worst thing I can get away with doing to get back at that person," are the much more common questions a psychopath would ask oneself. And that's my point- Rove isn't an outright lunatic. He doesn't run around with a bloody chainsaw threatening people and talking about the coming of the Apocalypse. He's a genius at manipulating people and controlling events from behind the scenes while knowing how to throw the right kind of mud in the right way at the right time while still keeping his fingers looking clean. And he has a wife and kids, and he's able to function in society normally. And he has friends that he is nice to who like him, who he's able to present normally and in a friendly fashion towards and hang out with while they enjoy his company. There are different levels and types of psycopaths, and some divide the people around them people into categories to decide how they'll treat them. And some of them can be quite manipulative while presenting themselves as nice, alright guys while not always being as blatantly obvious or as open as they could be. And that's what you are SJR- a fucking psychopath. A lying, hateful, dishonest, manipulative, vengeance-obsessed, violent psychopath. What's saddest of all is that your reasons for hating me are so incredibly petty. Had I kicked your pet cat and laughed in your face about it I'd have done far worse to you than what I actually did, and even that much wouldn't have warranted what you've done to me. For starters- me deleting over your update. I don't care what you believe or don't believe in that head of yours, that really was just an accident. I just kept reposting the same html copy I had before I realized I was deleting over your fanfiction. Secondly- me being rude to you on AIM that day. Sure, you were being nice to me and stuff. Talking about how much you liked me and all my work and were glad that I was on staff but... you know why I was rude? I was getting fed up and disillusioned with the staff. I just saw myself working my ass off for the site, getting barely any thanks for it from most of my "coworkers", while everybody just posted on the boards and didn't show any cares about it at all. Particularly the thing about us losing 62 DBGT BW comparison because you guys had been all wishy-washy and didn't care was one incident that really bothered me. That's why I complained to them that the staff didn't work hard enough and that I did more work than all of them combined. Sadly, I was pretty much correct in saying that. I'm not ordinarily rude to people on aim or general but... it was a lot of anger and frustration that'd built up over time. Even though you were being nice then, I didn't care if I was ignoring you/being rude- to me it was just, "So what? All he does is post fanfics? He doesn't even really put work into the site." However, your response to this one day has been dramatically overkill to put it mildly, particularly after I apologized. I mean really, all you did was scream at me, insult me, yell at me, demean me and threaten me. For what- apologizing? What'd you expect me to do- go to your doorsteps with a million dollars, lick your shoes clean while crying and begging you for forgiveness and offering you the opportunity to slice my wrists? I did not run over your grandmother, take any possessions from you, or cause any physical injury to you or any of your friends/family- I was having a shitty day, I had been getting very fucking disillusioned at how much work I put into the site while everybody did pretty much nothing and was rude to you on aim for a brief period. Yet, for months- over a year- you've attacked me and obsessed over me nonstop. Like threatening to close a topic, then insulting me/threatening me for closing that same topic and opening it while saying you were doing so to punish me and that I had no right to do that. From your psychotic/manipulative/power interpreting point of view that was your attempt to cast a hierarchy of power and dominance placing us in opposite positions. In other words, despite us both being staffers you wanted to declare yourself to have more power than I. Then you screamed at me violently in a rage of fit when I deleted the topic again in response to your reopening it like that. And acting like you'd spent months angrily, heatedly arguing with me about putting up warnings in editorials.... when the fact is that that topic only came up before ONE -single- time. Someone commented (back in 2003) about how much the DBZOA hates/attacks FUNimation. Then someone said it was mainly me being like that and you were like, "Nobody's opinions represent the DBZOA, blah blah," (though back then, that was before I'd turned on your crazy switch and wasn't intended as an insult towards me at all). Some girl responded to the effect, "If GS777 doesn't represent the DBZOA then who the hell does? He's the only one that puts in time and effort into the site and does any actual work around here! You can't represent the site if you just sit back and don't do anything!" That was a very interesting theory I have to say, one which I tend to agree more so than that those 5 guys who got fired from YGO "represented" that site just as much as Kevin and JD. Then later, after I apologized, you keep at it- blatantly ignoring that I actually was willing to apologize to you humbly after all the shit you'd just done to me- while continuing to rave on and on against me further and more strongly. Even then, pre-Psychology studies, at that moment in time I could tell you were a crazy. You then went out of your way to talk shit about me behind my back to others (especially staff) while doing certain things to annoy me, ie "press my buttons." Most notably making a "fun" signature where you joked about intentionally killing me. Then when I responded politely asking you to change it you flamed the crap out of me and refused to indignantly. Then I attacked you on aim while you played the victim card. Most noteably, you cast four others into "enemy" roles in hopes I'd say something about them to be used against me. I did, making Ski a more willing enemy to use against me, and creating an excuse to rally against me again flaming the fans of anger inside the utterly gullible and clueless Illj. You also did a 180 on your views on your work towards me trying to say anything you could honest or not that'd best dig you under my skin. I find it ironic that you find Naruto such an inspiration when yet, you have far more in common with the likes of Orochimaru and Gaara than you ever will have with someone as damned nice and honorable as Naruto. You've broken every promise you've ever made to me and have gone out of your way to flame me/bait me. (Though since about late 2004, when I made up my mind to leave, I pretty became invulnerable to all your other attempts.) You do not care about the site at all. Instead, by creating so much rage inside of you- your brain, the chemicals inside it pumping in certain regions producing certain effects, the mental diseases you've inherited- all of those have worked to produce an endless, undying hatred of me that you can't stop and can't help, leaving only a void with a strong desire you must fulfill and satiate in whatever ways possible. My apology meant nothing to you. In your head, I am and always will be an enemy of yours. Nothing I can ever say or do will ever change that. For you wish to interpret, manipulate and perceive (and try to cause others to perceive) reality in a manner best suiting your interest. You don't want to get along with me/be neutral or just leave me the fuck alone and do your own thing while I just do mine and leave you the fuck alone. You've shown that many, many times, especially last time when I incorporated your insulting update into mine (so as not to have another insult by you towards me on the front page)- and you erupted in a violent fit accusing me of thievery, threatening yet again to have me banned if I ever touched another one of your fucking updates again. You then got me to react the way you wanted then used it as an excuse to play the victim card against me. It's the same when you posted that insult, I complained, and you posted another- I complained again and, in the same fucked-up way, the staff bitched at me for complaining about being insulted. You know it caused "trouble" for me last time and so, you chose to do it again and got your wish fulfilled in creating the same set of reactions to all the desired parties. I remember you tried something similar with KevinTRod. Even though you were offended by his remarks about you and the Dbzoa ("it's like the tenant telling the landowner what apartments are for") when he insulted you for what he called a pointless update you... soon after you did another pointless update. Just a really offtopic "Yay Blizzard!" and link to somewhere bragging about the videogame company. Why? Especially after having been offended by Kevin insulting you for doing a pointless update? In hopes he'd insult you again, especially now that Leia said Kevin would be punished if he "responded again to an update before telling me." Basically, you wanted to find a covert way to get Kevin in trouble. Very clever. That's what Kevin told me when I explained it to him personally on aim warning him to avoid making the mistake of responding to that update. Also, although offended by Kevin, you then immediately tried to laugh off his comments then started fussing at me for having happily agreed with him trying to find ways to best exploit the situation against me. And when a rule was enacted in that staff chat about firing staffers who miss more than 3 meetings you asked repeatedly several times specifically if it'd apply to me if I did. (jumping at the chance later to immediately when I did miss one or two meetings, one of which I offered an excuse for) And when I pointed out how obviously you were lying about people complaining to you about my font size (ie, SJR- "several people emailed me man, I had to do it." GS77 "You and only you? It got put up at night and changed by tomorrow morning, during the least accessed-period for viewed. I call bull on that.") you refused to respond on these particular grounds as you were weak and vulnerable and could be proven wrong on them, opting instead to make a self-righteous/insulting/mocking response and turn the subject away to whatever more favorable grounds you could find while then attacking me for not "responding" to something pointless you wrote later when you had refused to respond to me earlier then. Like Caesar wrote in his biography, a genius of warfare knows to exploit any favorable ground that they can as much as humanly possible while staying the hell away from ground on which they're vulnerable. It's a shame though that in your obsession for revenge you have to look at things in their most simple and base forms. But there's a hell of lot more than this, and I'm not going to go over all this crap again any further SJR. SJR, you are a crazy, lying son of a bitch. You are an insane, mentally-diseased individual. You are a manipulative, dishonest, uncaring, hateful, obsessive, evil person. You do not care at all about the website, and if you really did then you'd put real work into it. All you care about is me, and getting revenge against me. Insulting me, lying about me, trying to repeatedly get me kicked off, portraying me as a bad guy, talking shit about me. "Think of me as the obsessive that wants you gone," as you once told me. Believe me, you didn't need to say it for me to believe it. SJR, I honestly hope you have as short a life as humanly possible. I hope you don't live long enough for someone in real life to manage to turn on your crazy switch too far and for it to end much more violently when vengeance can't be as easily found at the end of a keyboard and the clicks of a mouse. But more so than that, I really hope to God that you never breed and have children and pass on your family's evil/mental disorders, and create more individuals like you and brother. And I hope that any girl that considers dating you, any girl that considers fucking you, any girl that considers marrying you or any girl that considers having a child with you in any shape or form reads this, knows what you're truly like and is made fully aware of the risks of having one or more crazy kids just as bad, if not worse, than either you or your brother. I hold nothing but absolute contempt for you in every single degree. You are one of the single most disgusting and evil individuals I've ever had the displeasure of personally knowing and I truly hope that you burn in hell for all eternity. And now we come to you, SSJ Leia. This part was written before you left and Illy and then SJR came into control, but it still pretty much holds up. Leia, you're an extremely nice person and you're one of the hardest workers the site has had. In fact, a while ago you were probably the ONLY staffer still left who truly gives a damn about the original ideals and goals for which this site was created, or at least cares enough to work for them. So it pains me to have to say this. But as much as I hate to say it... you're an extremely incompetent manager. You don't know how to lead the site and you don't know how to manage the staff. At all. Basically you treat it like this- "Once you're on the site, you can stay as long as you possibly like. I will NEVER let you leave unwillingly and it doesn't matter how much work you do or don't put in to the site or what you do. Let's just all try to get along!" But that's the problem- we've got staff that haven't really done ANY updates in years. You've got SJR who just posts fanfics, Illj who basically does the same and focuses on stuff like fanart and who can occasionally be bothered to cough up a news update. You've got a lack of content, a lack of new opinions, a lack of features, interviews, specials- what the site originally had going for it. But most of all, you've got a lack of people caring, a lack of focus. Mainly the staff, the people in charge of the site, the ones who should be caring the most. And thus you've got a complete lack of real committment or work towards the site. Yet, none of that seems to bother you at all and that truly does bother me. Part of running a successful site with multiple staffers requires successful management. People who don't hold up their weight or do anything- you fire them. You get rid of the old blood that's running thin and then you bring in new blood that's running strong. You don't treat it like some Communist society where everybody is treated equally regardless of how much -or how very, very, very little- work ones does. But that is EXACTLY what you do and that's the problem. I remember a while ago KevinTRod fired about 4-5 staff members who never actually did anything but sit around with lengthy profiles about them in the Contact section of YGO Uncensored. He complained at them then they just waffled around and got angry at him for fussing at them. So what'd he do? He fired the whole lot of them! They weren't serious about working, only about having their names attached to a popular site, they didn't care enough to avoid getting fired by actually putting in some content, so he put down the law and got rid of them. If those guys really were serious they'd have gotten their jobs back by shaping up and submitting a ton of stuff to YGO U and showing how much they cared. And you know what? He did the right thing. I applauded him for it too and congratulated him. People shouldn't be on staff just to fill up their egos. They shouldn't be on staff just to brag, "Hey, I'm a staffer at (insert name of popular site here), isn't that so cool?!" They should only be on staff because they want to work and be productive and help the site. Because they truly care about the site and are willing to work for it. Not for any other reason. Honestly, it'd be like having an employee who comes in late every week, never does any work, then makes up excuses all the time. So what does the employer do, forgive them? No- it's a business! That's part of why Communist Russia, where private-owned plots produced more than 2 dozen times as much food as state owned land, (compared to the average amount per acre between the two, not the complete total amount each produced) where no amount of small/large work benefited them, failed. And that's why a Communist-style of running a site also fails. Sure, DBZOA isn't a business made to make bucks, we don't sell DVDs and we don't sell $100,000 in ads like Planet Namek once did. But it's supposed to be about fans who care, and about having staffers who also care enough to put in time and effort so that fans will actually have something to read and follow here. That's something you just don't understand. At all. Really, how are things going at this rate? What's going to happen in the next few months if it follows the past pattern? Maybe Bleach will get licensed prompting Illj to actually be bothered to do two non-fanfiction/pictures news-related updates? Maybe 1 or 2 people will submit editorials? While you're the only staffer that does work, and wind up being the one to post those (or the) editorial? Because that basically IS what's happening! Ever since I announced I was going to stop doing updates shortly after my YGO unlicensed fansubs update got deleted followed by a policy outlawing any more future updates of that nature, the front page has looked like a ghost town! Let's see... we've got content from you. An event as gigantic as Naruto being licensed actually managed to get Illj to lumber forth from the depths and finally put in two or so updates... and what else? Nada, zippo. That's not the way to run a site at all and it's extremely messed-up. Hell, the only reason I even bothered to update the site anymore long after I'd made up my mind to leave this damn place back around October was for the fans who come here expecting to actually have stuff because -get this- I actually cared enough to do so. "Yeah, I may be leaving, but.... there are still people who come. I owe it at least to them to put in some content." That was what I thought and I got in some good stuff too like the Beyblade uncut DVDs and that year's worth of journal entries from that FUNi girl. But you know what? Even after I'd planned on leaving the site long ago I actually cared enough to put in real content more than everyone else on the site except you. That is really, really sad! Just about as sad as what happened with that American farmer in Russia. Long story short- he wrote a news article (I think I remember reading the whole story about this in Reader's Digest years ago) during the Cold War complaining, "Let's not fight this with guns. Let's fight with productivity between the two of us, hell, I'd even be happy to sell you some corn seeds" who wound up selling some corn or some other crop to Russia. A Russian ambassador read the article, showed it to the Kremlin, and a surprising friendship came between Russia's head and the American farmer from Ohio who wound up selling some special seeds to the Soviet Union. Years later he flew over to Russia and oversaw some of their farming and complained to workers he saw there not working hard enough to work harder. The Russian guy with him then sadly noted that, "This man from America, our enemy, cares more about Russia's farming than those Russians in the field actually do. Something is not right." Later... the Soviety Union collapsed. Does that sound familiar? I, after making up my mind to leave the site, should not care more about putting in work for it than the average staffer here does. And the fact that I did really shows just how messed up things are around here. The site is choking on it's own stagnation. Like Illj said long ago, "Nah, I'm not in it for the DBZ reformation anymore. It's over and done with. That's why I'm pushing for the hastening of the expansion and why I started the anime review section," and how Ski said, "Hell, I don't give a crap about Dragon Ball. Hell I don't give a crap about ANY dubs. Dragon Ball's not popular with the mainstream anime community, and we need to move on to more popular stuff," along with Illj saying he was no longer into the activism thing. Really, I'm not that bothered by the fact that pretty much all of the staff besides you and me no longer give a fuck what FUNimation did to DBZ or care to inform other fans about what they did so as to school them. But what really truly bothers me is... the staff doesn't care about anything anymore! Any anime that are currently being butchered, edited, released only on cut DVD’s, manga with mangled translations (3 Stooges References in Naruto? Shonen Jump censoring curse words in there, anglicizing names, mistranslating plot stuff, etc.? Cutting out violence? Even when the whole staff supposedly "loves" and "cares" about Naruto none of them gave a shit about this?) or any other messed-up stuff, none of you care at all. You guys don't have or propose (see "YGO Fansubs" and "Winx Club Fansubs" editorials at YGO U) any new ideas at all, nor do you show any interest in any ideas for the site or if you do you just quickly forget about it. Maybe you do to at least some degree Leia, but nobody else here does and that's just not enough and that's just not right. Leia, while you make a good producer of content for the site... you're just not fit to be the head/manager of DBZOA. You don't know how to lead/control a staff. You don't understand the importance of having productive people on staff and having unproductive people not on staff, and you don't have the guts to stand up and complain to any staffers who don't put in any work or actually fire/replace any of them for not working. In short, you're completely and utterly incompetent at your job. It's bad enough the site now looks like complete shit with this new design, and it's bad enough you're the only other person besides me who's actually been bothered enough to really put forth much of any content, but the crap with SJR is far beyond anything I'm willing to deal with anymore. What part of his always taking the opposite side of me don't you understand even if he's being dishonest don't you get? Like the time he linked Dbzoa to a site that sells bootlegs. When I pointed it out he simply said, "Yes, they do, and I saw that the first time I looked around there. They have them at a higher price than the Viz ones, too, so it evens out. Many of the retail stores I go to sell bootlegs in addition to official imports and the officially licensed DVDs. Thereby making it the customer's choice, which is in fact the right way to go about doing something." Later, when most staffers seemed to be against linking to a site that sells bootlegs and he realized the link would be changed eventually, he immediately changed his mind and did this update- " It has come to our attention (thanks for pointing this out, Saiyaman) that the folks at Anime International deal quite a bit in bootleg merchandise. Until they drop those materials from their listings, the Otaku Alliance is removing their link from the Links section. I'll keep my eye on these guys, but for now, I'll be looking into other sources for DVD purchases from our reviews." Really? So SJR found out about the bootlegs before he linked to it, considering it such a nonissue that he didn't bother to tell the staff, then he was in favor of it until most staffers were against, then he renounced his belief in supporting fansubs while also THANKING me for "pointing this out", although he already knew about it to begin with! And then later, although I doubt his stance on fansubs changed (note- I'm going to make a not too large assumption for SJR and anyone else that there's not a single person who is in favor of bootlegs but opposed to unlicensed fansubs) at the exact same point as his stance on bootlegs did, he later changed his stance on fansubs and became completely against them despite the fact that he downloads Naruto and watches the crap out of it all the time! If you ask me... hmm... something doesn't add up here. Gee whiz Leia, I think he just might be lying! Golly, I wonder just why he might be doing that? The impression I've gotten from SJR is that he likes to take the opposite side of whatever issue that he reasonably can, for the sole purpose of arguing against and opposing whatever I'm in favor. It's like how when I complained about the font being too small, he kept arguing it was the right size and needed to be consistent, then when I complained that his fanfic section had a larger font he immediately said, "Speaking of text size, Wedge, is there any way we can make the font size of fanfiction to be the same size as the rest of the site? It's pretty big, and doesn't look right." It's also the same where he got angry and fussed at me when I complained that the site was dying and the staff had lost interest, yet after Illy gave him control of the site soon said, "I got placed at the helm of a sunken ship; I damn well won't give it up without a fight." Interesting to know he actually cares about the site only NOW that Illy gave it to him. And what part of the fact that he once boasted to me, "think of me as the obsessive that wants you gone," after harassing/egging me into attacking him, proceeded by him immediately running to 5 staffers at aim at once pretending to be scared and in tears while lying about me to try and get his asshole friend to ban me, don't you understand? What part of the fact that he's said he'd "always hate" me don't you understand? What part of the fact that he said he hates me to begin with don't you understand? What part of the fact that, even after bearing his attacks and apologizing to him repeatedly and asking him if we could just move on he just went rabidly overboard and flamed the living shit out of me don't you understand? What part of him lying about me telling him I wanted to leave to Illy and several other people before Illy went on his rampage to me, then only having to say, "Saiyaman, I will say one thing to you right now, and one thing only. I will continue to work with you, so long as you are willing to work with all of us, and trust us. Without the trust, you have no place here," when he's done NOTHING to earn that trust don't you understand? What part of him bragging about "standing up" for his friends, yet saying he wouldn't care if you left as long as I got banned don't you understand? What part of him saying that he's "wanted me gone" ever since that one aim convo don't you get? What part of him lying about me, talking shit about me, insulting and portraying me as a bad guy while repeatedly trying to get rid of me don't you understand? And what part of him fitting the exact profile of a psychopath, and coming from a family with a history of mental diseases with a brother to boot that thought it was perfectly acceptable to threaten a sister with a knife to get control over a TV set, don't you get? You really don't get it at all Leia. Hell, even though you ignored me and brushed me off for months when I complained that he was harassing me, and when I told you could put a stop to it in a heartbeat and told me you'd actually "do something" if I could "show" you he was. And then when I finally did it in that gigantic report- you did jack shit! "Golly, he says he won't mess with you and that he's sorry, now you just need to forget about it." Your obsession with "site unity" and "trying to make everybody happy" led you to do nothing to "keep all the staff" and keep Illj (who was foaming at the mouth with rage at the thought of his buddy leaving or being punished for, gasp, being a crazy fucking asshole) happy and then you fucking threatened me ("well, maybe you don't belong on this site then") just for simply wanting you to at -least -punish him (showing him that you don't condone his behavior, as opposed to doing the opposite of basically positively sanctioning his behavior by not doing anything to him in the least for it) for all the crap he did to me. I should have left then and there, and yet I still chose to stay. I made a mistake in doing that. I actually chose to stay in spite of everything, thinking SJR could move beyond his fucking hatred/obsession and just get over me. Well guess what Leia? He didn't. What did you expect, his brother's been to the fucking insane asylum before and once tried to pull a knife on his sister! This kind of stuff runs in families, Leia, in lesser and greater degrees to various family members. Hell, you told me you disagreed with his news comment he did on me then you told me, "But it was wrong of you to remove it, therefore to punish you it must remain." And then when I complain he never got punished at all for messing with me you just tell me I need to forget about that because "it's in the past?" Bullshit Leia. Leia, you're a nice person on the inside and (not counting not doing jack about SJR and all that "site unity" crap) you've been very nice to me many times, so it again pains me to have to say this- you're too damn incompetent to run this site, the DBZOA's lost whatever spark it once had and I'm not willing to work here anymore. You once told me sometime after/during all that SJR stuff happily, "Come on Saiyaman, suffer for the good of the site!" What the fuck? "Suffer for the good of"... why the hell should I "suffer" for anything, let alone a site that's been dying? With an ungrateful, uncaring staff that does nothing and lets me get treated like crap by some crazy and his two asshole friends? Working at a site shouldn't be about "suffering" it should be about just relaxing, doing stuff you want to do and being able to- believe it or not- actually have a fun time, which is not something I can do here any more. I've heard the staff talk about the cards they have up their sleeves... "Oh, we're moving in new directions! Soon we'll have an entire Anime library catalogued about all the amines out there." Umm... doesn't ANN already have that? Why do something that's already been done before better than you'll ever be able to do it? "Oh, we're moving in new directions. We'll be posting more fanficiton and fanart, general anime stuff that people want! Oh, and Naruto episode summaries!" How many other sites post general fanfiction and fanart? How many Naruto episode summaries are already out there on the net? Why do something that so many other people/sites have already done countless times before, often times much better than you could? The Dbzoa should go for something unique, it's own niche, and stick with that niche. The DBZOA already had something going- activism. While other sites focused on the dub, some of which even befriended people who worked there and proceeded to defend them and the company while attacking the remaining hardcore fans who still complained, the Dbzoa actually stood up and complained about the stuff still going on. That is something special and unique and something worth having. Sure, maybe it wouldn't ever be as big as Planet Namek but DBZ Uncensored never got 1/15th that site's hits and don't try to tell me for a second Planet Namek was better than DBZUncensored. And that's my whole point- the site has something unique going for it and it's completely losing that something that made it special. It's helped convert thousands of grateful fans (many of whom I've spoken to/interacted with) and more and that is something to be proud of. Instead, the site's stopped being proud of that and it's just moving in the direction of becoming yet another generic anime site, (and worse, one whose staff is extremely unproductive and unenthusiastic) instead of something special and unique like it once was. DBZOA actually helped motivate me into starting up DBZU 2 from all of the good content on there. I saw all this great content and thought, I'd love to work with the people making this great content and make more content with them. I was wrong- aside from you, work was not something I've really seen from any of the staff. Chris Psaros once said that the DBZOA now had the fire in his belly that he no longer had... but that statement no longer holds true. Aside from Leia, all that's left in the rest of the staff are burnt-out ashes. It's pretty much been like this ever since Planet Namek came crashing down in a giant ball of fire. I could accept this, working so hard even among people who never do anything, putting in content for which visitors would email and thank me for but pretty much none of the staff besides you or Crippler would do, the site's ugly new "image" and directions, but being insulted, harassed, lied to, lied about, harassed, talked shit about by some mentally diseased psychopath and having to deal with him and his two asshole friends while the rest of the staff does nothing about it wasn't a part of the deal. Leia, I know about you wanting to leave and hand over the site to Illj then beg all the old staffers if any of them want to come back and work, and I have to say that's not going to solve anything and this site will continue to be just as bad if not worse since you're the only person who still updates and you won't be here much longer to give the site at least some content. I really loved this site, Leia. You're wrong if you think for a minute that I've betrayed the DBZOA but the DBZOA (or at least it's staff) has definitely betrayed me. I'm sorry to the vast majority of people on the Dbzoa boards who otherwise are okay. Most of you are great and decent people who I don't really honestly have any problems with. Many of you are nice people I'm happy to call friends and I'm glad to have met you and a lot of you still do care even if most of the staff doesn't. But the site as it is is not something I can, or am willing, to deal with anymore or support in any way. And to any readers of the DBZOA, I'm sorry but the site's no longer what it used to be. The Dbzoa is now dead and I am sick and tired of being one of the only two people left who care enough to try and revive it. I'm sorry it has to be this way, but goodbye. After word by John A. D’Adamo, webmaster of Yuugiou Uncensored: Never before was I aware of the hell that GreatSaiyaman went through after all the hard work… never before, until I read this goodbye editorial. Sure, he’s told me bits and pieces, but I haven’t been around long enough to know the beginning. As it stands, the Otaku Alliance is set to crumble. With Leia, the only productive member on the ENTIRE WEBSITE leaving, all hope is lost. OA will surely founder. Oh, maybe in the beginning, Illy will get off his ass and write a piece of crap that he strings together in five seconds, to prove that the site isn’t completely stagnating… in fact, this is what I’m banking on. What will happen then? Nothing. Leia is the only member that contributed anything to the OA useful in about a year, and even that was only DB stuff… far from the original intended Otaku Alliance goal. And so, since I do not want Kevin and my beloved site from being held back a website that’s inactive for years (most people have said they only go for the forums), I am officially taking Yuugiou Uncensored after Leia’s retirement from the site. There will be no other reason to stay. I refuse to have our precious site that is updated almost every day, hosted by a site that updates twice a month, and almost always by Leia. Leia, you are the only productive person on OA as it stands today. It’s quite unfortunate that you have to be bogged down by certain idiots. SJR, you’re an asshole. There’s no getting around it. After all the shit you’ve pulled with GS, I wouldn’t be surprised if Chris Psaros HIMSELF comes on and brings his site from the grave briefly so he can host it somewhere else, instead of with control freaks like you, Illy, and Ski. And that’s all there is to say. The only thanks I’ll give to OA is for hosting our site (and most of the credit for that goes to Saiyaman anyway). Goodbye, OA.